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  • Totally agree with the above. If you find yourself temporarily unemployed, let your unit know. Plenty of man days to be used and more can be given. Right now there is no requirement to call up the RDF and we need to help our DF, they are down circa 1000 people and we could fill that gap temporarily. The increase in the allowance announced last night wont pay all my Bill's but a weeks FTT will. Now I know this wont suit everyones financial needs but it does do mine. My unit is giving me at least 3 weeks FTT starting very shortly. You should all do the same if you can.
    Last edited by batterysgt; 25 March 2020, 10:00.

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    • And spread the word, most young people might not know this is available to them.
      Last edited by batterysgt; 25 March 2020, 10:09.

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      • Does anyone know if accepting FTT will deny you any of the COVID allowances currently being mooted by the Government ?
        "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

        "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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        • I have no idea but I'm not going to let that stop me. I'm waiting to here what the detail is for ex PDF to go back.

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          • Thats fair enough. Ive made my availability known and an just waiting i suppose.

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            • Current numbers. Shocking.
              The following table details the current strength (Whole Time Equivalent) figures of the Permanent Defence Force, as of the 30th April 2020, and those of the agreed establishment.
              Branch Establishment Strength Shortage
              Army 7520 6867 653
              Air Corps 886 726 160
              Naval Service 1094 892 202
              Total 9500 8485 1015
              The Government remains committed to returning to, and maintaining the agreed strength of the Permanent Defence Force at 9,500 personnel as set out in the White Paper on Defence (2015). In that context recruitment will continue throughout 2020 targeting General Service Recruits, Cadets and specialists for the Army, Air Corps and Naval Service.
              Defence Forces Strength Dáil Éireann Debate, Wednesday - 3 June 2020
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post

                To put the NS figures in perspective

                approx additional 100 personnel in training

                Senior Officer/NCO fulltime shore based positions approx 70

                Fulltime shore based appointments (MP, PSS, MT Fitters, Ordnance etc) approx 30

                Non operational (seagoing) personnel approx 30

                Thats 664 all ranks to man 9 ships

                Considering you have 13 PO/Cooks to man 7 seagoing positions the rotation of 2 years out is already gone.

                If you lose one of more due to medical issue etc, then your lucky to get one year ashore before rotation back to sea.....


                Rotations for Senior Officers approx 2 years out, 6+ years in.

                Now it becomes clear why mostly Junior Ranks are discharging.

                More time at sea for less a day than a Pte gets per day in Portlaoise Prison

                Increase in PDA & SDA could solve a lot accross the board in the DF

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                • Excellent news that there are now 40 new AR Sgts

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                  • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                    Excellent news that there are now 40 new AR Sgts
                    Yep, heard AR 2 Bde went gang busters in this regard
                    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                    • Does anyone know if the Reserve Defence Forces have medical officers or is it just the PDF?

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                      • Originally posted by Irish.medic237 View Post
                        Does anyone know if the Reserve Defence Forces have medical officers or is it just the PDF?
                        Yes there is a number of them

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                        • Originally posted by Irish.medic237 View Post
                          Does anyone know if the Reserve Defence Forces have medical officers or is it just the PDF?
                          there are some but the requirements are different to other RDF officers. There is a requirement to hold a professional medical qualification recognised by DMB

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                          • WRC had 'no jurisdiction' to rule on naval service age discrimination complaint (irishexaminer.com)

                            A Noble endeavour.
                            Is there grounds though to review the upper age limits for recruitment? Some of you may remember the age limits were reduced to change the army from what it was in the 80s, full of 50 year old privates who's only exercise was climbing into bed at night or walking between the mess and the pub outside the barrack gates.
                            Current upper limits are 25 for Army, 27 for Navy, and 26 for Cadetships. The Air Corps Apprentice school is younger again, under 21 on closing date, or 23 if already serving.
                            Fitness has changed, as a generation since then. I frequently see 50 year olds running 5K twice a week. (back when there were 5K parkruns).
                            The RN recently greatly changed their age window to 16 to 39.
                            US military has upper age limits of 28 for USMC, 31 for USCG and 39 for USN(42 for officer).

                            If someone is willing to serve as an older applicant, and passes the same fitness levels as an 18 year old, why shouldn't they be permitted to serve? Can we afford to recruit from such a small pool in the current situation?
                            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                            • I reckon the commission will address the age of recruits. It was mentioned in a lot of submissions and it was one of the recommendations of the commission on policing. If they can pass the tests and the training what's the problem?

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