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Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
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I don't like the dismissal of the stonework in the graving dock. It served a purpose. The document also seems to be unaware of the function of a caisson and the usefulness it, and the pump house earmarked for demolition, could provide.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostIt started sinking sometime round 2010, was scrapped soon after. Was in frequent use for maintenance of the CPVs but couldn't manage anything much bigger. There was a much larger one along side it for years.
Last man standing at Verolme Dockyard today. 60 years old and the last crane to be removed from a historic local employer. @PhotosCork @rtenews @CorksRedFM @RandomCorkStuff pic.twitter.com/djmGuwHKXa
— Aaron Woods (@woodsCOBH) March 29, 2018
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Well Leibherr are assembling cranes there at present. There is still plenty of space for fabrication, and plenty of mobile crane suppliers with impressive lift capabilities nearby so all is not lost, but modern fixed STS or Dockyard.cranes.make the whole business a bit safer.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostWell Leibherr are assembling cranes there at present. There is still plenty of space for fabrication, and plenty of mobile crane suppliers with impressive lift capabilities nearby so all is not lost, but modern fixed STS or Dockyard.cranes.make the whole business a bit safer.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThe site is described as DSG CORK Terminal. My view is that it will be a cargo handling terminal and repair will become a diminishing part of the facility. Perhaps long term afloat repairs will disappear. However since a lot of ships are gearless, large cranes , mobile or otherwise will be essential for cargo handling. Trucking will also be needed over narrow winding roads.
They did it on the Whitegate road when the refinery was built over 50 years ago.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThe site is described as DSG CORK Terminal. My view is that it will be a cargo handling terminal and repair will become a diminishing part of the facility. Perhaps long term afloat repairs will disappear. However since a lot of ships are gearless, large cranes , mobile or otherwise will be essential for cargo handling. Trucking will also be needed over narrow winding roads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCOwMmkP-94
If you need something smaller then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mr_pCrhTkk
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostWhy go by road when you can go by water?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCOwMmkP-94
If you need something smaller then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mr_pCrhTkk
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostNo beaches - then use the slipwaysFor now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostOk. Ways to skin cats. No beaches at DSG yard. Just to note. I spent 2 years in total standing by building two ships at VCD. The offices and facilities were under the Building Slips and were adjacent and parallel to the graving dock. When a ship is docked, and dry, all ship's domestics shuts down except a single galley outlet for grey water. The crews used the wash and restrooms ashore. There seems to be no assignable facilities adjacent to the Dock now. The History of this sole national Dock is that when Lemass assembled 18 ocean going ships to feed the nation during 1939-1945, he knew they needed a drydock so the state took over Cork Dockyard for the use of ISL. In latter years the State has relinquished it's responsibility for key infrastructure to profit motivated entities. There is now some plan afoot at DSG and it isn't to improve ship repair and maintenance. The site except for sheds is flattened.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostGiven the imminent isolation of Ireland by the loss of the land bridge to Europe we need to refocus on our Maritime weaknesses. We must strive to be more self sufficient and not expect others to save us. In the upcoming Defence proposals/evaluations it is time to decide, once and for all, a Naval Stance for Ireland. Navy's are just NOT for Fishery Protection, and maritime policework , but require a series of response capabilities to reach a deterrence level for modern threats. Right now we are floundering and are losing manpower for more than two or more years. The result is a resizing mindset which of course weakens responses, and numbs ambition towards new tonnage and capability. In the mean time several countries are building up Navies and adding SSK's for the first time.
All it takes is political will.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostWe only have to look at NZ, with a similar population and economy as ours, and a similar security profile. They can manage a Naval fleet of Helicopter capable OPVs and an MRV, as well as a fleet oiler, Dive support ship and 2 frigates. And without the financial support from their neighbouring continental states... OK they have crewing issues too, but nowhere near our problems..
All it takes is political will.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThis week from Nautical journals "Future Mine hunting system comes to CLYDE". It is a GRP style half decker which is equipped with side scan sonar and other tracking sensors to allow it map an area and detect the presence of UW ordnance or hazards. Although developmental with ATLAS Electronik on board it has reached Initial Operating Cabability ( IOC ) at HMNB CLYDE. It operates Crew on Board, Crew Ashore, or Autonomously. The boat is named RNMB HARRIER-Google for more information. The benefits might be many more units deployable for harbour, estuarine, river, or canal areas. Ships with ROV's and target destruction means may be still relevant for routes at sea.
https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/sol...ms/arcims.html
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostWe only have to look at NZ, with a similar population and economy as ours, and a similar security profile. They can manage a Naval fleet of Helicopter capable OPVs and an MRV, as well as a fleet oiler, Dive support ship and 2 frigates. And without the financial support from their neighbouring continental states... OK they have crewing issues too, but nowhere near our problems..
All it takes is political will.
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