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Originally posted by Graylion View Post
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(a) No crossing is needed there, the residents want to walk there, they want less vehicles.
(b) There was supposed to be a swing bridge. You must keep the city quays open to all vessels. Otherwise just fill in the river with concrete and be done with it.
For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThis is an eureka moment. Delighted with that statement but am always sceptical when aspirations and budgets do not coincide, unless increased berthage and drydock is going to be funded from Dept of Building , Planning and Environment. In another piece in today's Irish Examiner Captain Mc Carthy, Chairman of Cruise Europe, is negative about proposed river Crossing in Cork that will isolate upper Quays and shut out all traffic including visiting Naval vessels.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostWork on additional berthage has already started. Drydock is newFor now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostWhere is the work on berthage happening? Are they restoring the Graving dock(a tight squeeze without cranes or engineering workshops nearby). I always believed purchase of a floating dock, locating at (and leasing to/from) the Cork Dockyard would be a wise move in the long term. Cork Dockyard continues to be used to assemble Dockside cranes, ironically having none itself. Proposed plans for floating offshore wind farms will require lots of space ashore for assembly, support and repair. If the NS purchased a Floating dock, and leased it to DSG, it would be paid for within 10 years.
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sea/sea...ock-in-action/
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostWhere is the work on berthage happening? Are they restoring the Graving dock(a tight squeeze without cranes or engineering workshops nearby). I always believed purchase of a floating dock, locating at (and leasing to/from) the Cork Dockyard would be a wise move in the long term. Cork Dockyard continues to be used to assemble Dockside cranes, ironically having none itself. Proposed plans for floating offshore wind farms will require lots of space ashore for assembly, support and repair. If the NS purchased a Floating dock, and leased it to DSG, it would be paid for within 10 years.
Doesn’t DSG not already have a floating dock? There was pics of one on their previous website.
Would require a multi annual tender for all the vessels. Not impossible but generally not done by DoD
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Originally posted by DeV View Posthttps://irl.eu-supply.com/app/docmgm...8&DVID=1219071
Doesn’t DSG not already have a floating dock? There was pics of one on their previous website.
Would require a multi annual tender for all the vessels. Not impossible but generally not done by DoD
Last man standing at Verolme Dockyard today. 60 years old and the last crane to be removed from a historic local employer. @PhotosCork @rtenews @CorksRedFM @RandomCorkStuff pic.twitter.com/djmGuwHKXa
— Aaron Woods (@woodsCOBH) March 29, 2018Last edited by na grohmiti; 2 August 2020, 19:04.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by DeV View Posthttps://irl.eu-supply.com/app/docmgm...8&DVID=1219071
Doesn’t DSG not already have a floating dock? There was pics of one on their previous website.
Would require a multi annual tender for all the vessels. Not impossible but generally not done by DoD
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThe floating docks are gone many years. Reading the request for Tender to increase berthage at the naval base seems to have so many unquantifiable hindrances to commencement of work that not many Irish firms will be interested!! I would have thought the major thing would be to remove all of the unwanted silt by a dredging contractor at first and then follow with the engineering works. The dredging will be mostly suction and waterjet coupled with a magnetic means to remove steel jetsam. Using the graving dock for staggered berthage is a bad mistake as it is virtually destroying it as a potential drydock and when in use the outer ship will block the inner ship freedom of movement. Better make it a covered dock to work on ships afloat, one at a time.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostCostings were done on this some years ago and it was not at all costly. Biggest problem is the Visual intrusion such a structure would bring, and the outrage from NIMBYs in Cob H.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThe floating docks are gone many years. Reading the request for Tender to increase berthage at the naval base seems to have so many unquantifiable hindrances to commencement of work that not many Irish firms will be interested!! I would have thought the major thing would be to remove all of the unwanted silt by a dredging contractor at first and then follow with the engineering works. The dredging will be mostly suction and waterjet coupled with a magnetic means to remove steel jetsam. Using the graving dock for staggered berthage is a bad mistake as it is virtually destroying it as a potential drydock and when in use the outer ship will block the inner ship freedom of movement. Better make it a covered dock to work on ships afloat, one at a time.
Which is probably why it’s says it should be removed
In fairness in the basin there is only so many places to go
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Originally posted by DeV View PostCould well be gone
Which is probably why it’s says it should be removed
In fairness in the basin there is only so many places to go
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Any plans I saw had new berthage outside the basin to the north where water is deep. The quay at the basin entrance was also in the plan as a short term berth.
At present at least one ship is using the Deepwater berth in Cobh on a regular basis.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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