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    ford mk 6 armoured car

    ford mk 6 in a field in the uk,,
    i have not seen this photo on the net or in a magazine, i have a interest in classic irish military vehicle but i am not a member of any irish vehicle club and therfor may not be as well informed as others so this mite be old news and this vehicle may be long gone the photo was taking (not by me) in october 2006. on the off chance that it is still there i have more photos, info, & map, it would make a nice restoration or for parts for the two irish ones thats here.
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    Nice find. needs a tad restoration though, thanks for posting!

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    The ones in Ireland are running so no parts needed . In fact it would be quite possible to get this machine running again as the running gear is quite simple.
    Wonder how much its current owner is looking for it.

    Can you get aregistration so we can at least track its history and see is it worth restoring.

    I sure some one will want it now we know there is one out there.
    Time for another break I think......

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    16 of the mk6 were sold at auction in the early 70s 3 of which went to GB and i do not know what happend to the rest, the farmer who owns the field said (in 2006) that it was owned by a engineering shop that use to convert lorrys into special puspose vehicles but had gone bust a long time ago. i have no reg but there is a name on the side (see photo). to be honest lads i would be very surprised if it is still there, i also have this up on a irish military forum site that i know has members of irish military vehicle clubs and so far no one knows about it i will leave it for a fue days and if no one knows anything about it i will post any info i have..
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    check out the 2009 sat map
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    gone

    she's gone...click on the link for more info http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055797637
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    Sad. I'd have bought it and tooled around in SF in it.
    Meh.

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    there is a chance that this vehicle is back in ireland as a restoration project and may turned up somewere, i got an email that said it went to ireland with a private collector

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    Its actually the one in the Museum at Collins Bks Dublin. Was bought specifically for the purpose.
    Time for another break I think......

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    im not sure but i though the one in collins bks was from preston ZD 1760 i have photos of the 3 vehicles and they don't seem to match nor doe's the dates but you could be right and maybe someone eals may post more info.(.preston photo 1995} if i had money id bet that the rusty one is from the grange cavern museum in wales the photo was taking in that area.
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    What ever happened to the Congo Fords?

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    Did the cars have serial numbers? A better way to track them than roadlegal number-plates.
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    What about the Ford that used to be in the Cobbaton collection?


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintary View Post
    im not sure but i though the one in collins bks was from preston ZD 1760 i have photos of the 3 vehicles and they don't seem to match nor doe's the dates but you could be right and maybe someone eals may post more info.(.preston photo 1995} if i had money id bet that the rusty one is from the grange cavern museum in wales the photo was taking in that area.
    I think you right about ZD1760.
    It has the cuts in the side of the engine bay.

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    Great thread- great pics, well done

    Whne I see the Ford I always for some reasons think of the Daleks
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Ford Mk V. A Peerless connection:-

    On the 11th of July 1940 the Dept of Finance sanctioned the purchase of .5 inch mild steel plate for the production of 14 Ford Mk V. armoured cars by Thompson & Son, Carlow.

    These vehicles were designed by Major A. W. Mayne. While they drew on the Rolls-Royce armoured car for inspiration they incorporated lessons learned during the construction of the Leyland armoured cars.

    The mild steel plate was welded by Thompsons and each car's wheelbase reduced to 122 inches. The design ensured that each vehicles weight was optimally distributed between front and back.

    As a result the Thompson (or Carlow) Ford Mk V was a stronger (and cheaper) vehicle than the GSR's Mark IV and had far better road performance.

    All 14 Ford Mark Vs were fitted with Hotchkiss .303 armed turrets that had been retained in Cavalry Workshops when the Perless armoured cars were scrapped.

    While the Hotchkiss were obsolete the turrets themselves were made from good quality armoured steel plate.


    All the Ford Mark Vs were sold on the 28th May 1954.

    Connaught Stranger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Border Bunny View Post
    What ever happened to the Congo Fords?
    On the 12th of May 1964 the Irish Army handed over to the Congelese Army at Kolwezi Airport the following 6 Ford Mk VI's.

    ZD 1759

    ZD 1763

    ZD 1765

    ZD 1766

    ZD 1771

    ZD 1775


    All were in running order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    What about the Ford that used to be in the Cobbaton collection?
    sorry goldie fish im not familiar with the cobbation collection is that in shropshire england,,i know only of 4 mk 6s
    "1" curragh camp ZD 1844
    "2" preston isaac museum now (collins bks) ZD 1760
    "3" field in wales (now gone) no reg
    "4"shropshire ZD 1757

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connaught Stranger View Post
    On the 12th of May 1964 the Irish Army handed over to the Congelese Army at Kolwezi Airport the following 6 Ford Mk VI's.

    ZD 1759

    ZD 1763

    ZD 1765

    ZD 1766

    ZD 1771

    ZD 1775


    All were in running order.
    thanks for the info connought stranger glad to see a bit of interest in the aul irish stuf

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    Did the cars have serial numbers? A better way to track them than roadlegal number-plates.
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    there would have been a reg (ZD)but i cant find it there is a name on it have a look.
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    The Irish Army was not the only army to build improvised armoured cars on a Ford truck chassis during the WW2 period.

    Australia built 3 types the Dingo Scout Car, Rover Light Armoured Car and Ford S1 Scout Car (for the US Army).
    India built the Indian Pattern Carrier and South Africa the South African Reconnaissance Car (also called the Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car).
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    Slightly off topic -

    Major Mayne. Was that his Irish Army rank?

    If so - When / why was the rank of Major done away with ?
    'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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    the name Senteniel is stenciled on the side of the turret from the field find, Shouldn't be to hard to track down which one held this name
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintary View Post
    sorry goldie fish im not familiar with the cobbation collection is that in shropshire england,,i know only of 4 mk 6s
    "1" curragh camp ZD 1844
    "2" preston isaac museum now (collins bks) ZD 1760
    "3" field in wales (now gone) no reg
    "4"shropshire ZD 1757
    the cobbation collection is also known as the preston isaac in devon collection ZD 1760 which is now in collins barrackshttp://www.cobbatoncombat.co.uk/

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    ford a/c

    great stuf railwaylad,, more fords armoured cars
    "mk 4" 1940 inchicore dublin
    "mk 5" 1941/42 on exercies
    "mk 6" 1960/61 congo
    you may have to zoom in for better detail
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