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    Direct Entry?

    Hi folks
    im starting electrical services engineering in september and i was wondering if its possible to go for direct entry with it when im finished.
    any info would be greatfully apreciated.

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    The DF are trying to reduce their dependence on DE officers by putting more graduates through cadetships.

    But from time to time the may be a requirement, if it is advertised it is probably possible (depending on the degree).

    See here:
    http://www.military.ie/careers/directentry/index.htm
    http://www.military.ie/careers/direc...electrical.htm

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    its a proper degree alright and is accredited by iei. i was planning on doing the extra year aswell which gives a level 8 in electrical services engineering and energy management. so is it only when its advertised that you can apply for direct entry?

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    I believe there is 18 engineers in this years class maybe wrong but there is more than would account for natural wastage in the corps. If you want to join do the cadetship and you will then have to take a number and wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00martz00 View Post
    so is it only when its advertised that you can apply for direct entry?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit View Post
    You need a level 8 for Direct Entry. The IEI reduced their entry requirements for MIEI to level 7, but the Army had sense.
    They're increasing the requirements for chartership to level 9 from 2013 though.

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    Would a honours degree in computing qualify for direct entry?

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    Maybe. But as been said before, the amount of graduates going for cadetships is on the increase, some with PhDs even.

    Direct entry would be for an urgent need like medical doctor or Aeronautical engineer I'd say
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZULU View Post
    Aeronautical engineer
    Wishful thinking much?

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    Graduated MEch eng actually. Thinking more of the last advertised direct entry position I saw. One technical officer in aeronatical engineering for AC.
    "The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connolly View Post
    Would a honours degree in computing qualify for direct entry?
    I've never come across a DE CIS competition

    Quote Originally Posted by ZULU View Post
    One technical officer in aeronatical engineering for AC.
    Really?



    In the main DE officers would be in the following areas:

    Engineering (more 100% sure but civil, electronic, electrical etc)

    Marine Engineering

    Medicine

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    Has there ever been direct entry commissions into the RDF outside of the medical corps? If not, what would have to change to allow it?

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    It is allowed for in the Defence Act and R5. Never heard of it being used though

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    I know 2 people that were DE entries into the CoE - this happened in the last 5 years, so its definitely still being used.
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    What about for infantry? Is there a precedent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftandSure View Post
    What about for infantry? Is there a precedent?
    What skills could a DE bring to Infantry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftandSure View Post
    What about for infantry? Is there a precedent?
    Not unless they have a degree in infantry officering...
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmití View Post
    What skills could a DE bring to Infantry?
    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    Not unless they have a degree in infantry officering...
    They could already be an infantry officer from another army with plenty of relevant qualifications and experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftandSure View Post
    They could already be an infantry officer from another army with plenty of relevant qualifications and experience.
    You seem to misunderstand the concept of direct entry. Bringing a civilian qualification and using it in a military environment, after a period of military training.
    I know of no case where any military skill was sought under a DE scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftandSure View Post
    They could already be an infantry officer from another army with plenty of relevant qualifications and experience.

    Not a recognised third level qualification.
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    Not a good time to be DE, it looks like they wont be promoted as per their contract. So better off not going DE or more to the point tech officer.

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    Okay, maybe I am misunderstanding Direct Entry, or at least using the wrong term. I suppose what I'm asking is that if someone of previous military service outside the State with significant rank and pertinent and valuable experience were to join the RDF; are there any regulatory mechanisms to carry their rank over into the RDF? This is assuming vacancies are available yada yada yada...

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    Is RGJ thinking of joining up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pym View Post
    Is RGJ thinking of joining up?
    Once the rollout of MS Office is announced in the RDF, he'll be on it like a car bonnet!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftandSure View Post
    Okay, maybe I am misunderstanding Direct Entry, or at least using the wrong term. I suppose what I'm asking is that if someone of previous military service outside the State with significant rank and pertinent and valuable experience were to join the RDF; are there any regulatory mechanisms to carry their rank over into the RDF? This is assuming vacancies are available yada yada yada...
    Its barely available for someone with past experience in the PDF.

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