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Originally posted by DeV View PostYou are only entitled to the operational boots etc if the course includes a 72 hour ex.
It is well known in the PDF that up until recently daysacks were not on issue and had to purchased.
The boots issue is just annoying as its that fine line. Eg. a 71hr exs. (FUUUUUUUUUUUU) so as that they don't have to issue tac boots. I can understand this a lot of the time as I'm sure there will be shortages particularly when they have to make sure there is enough kit for the new intake as well as the boys going over seas. Who obviously need it more than we do."Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose"
"Don't waste money buying expensive binoculars. Simply stand next to the object you wish to view."
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Just to go back on topic for a bit...
I have a thing made up on "what to carry and where to carry it" which I made up for my POTs cse a few years ago, its based on having a smock & PLCE but sure it would give an an idication on where to put things on a BV if anyone wants it just send me a PM and I'll dig it out and send it to ya
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There was a centrespread in the Connect only last september/october from the NCOTW outlining the packing ofd the IPLCS as per their SOP for the Standard Course.
PS: IPLCS load carriage items are serial numbered items that are only supposed to be issued out on a soldiers AF721.They are not usually "loaned out"."Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by apod View PostThere was a centrespread in the Connect only last september/october from the NCOTW outlining the packing ofd the IPLCS as per their SOP for the Standard Course.
PS: IPLCS load carriage items are serial numbered items that are only supposed to be issued out on a soldiers AF721.They are not usually "loaned out".
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Originally posted by Mr. Tezza View PostFor our St. Patricks Day parade we got to "borrow" some battle vests, I remember thinking when I was handing it back to our cadre to bring them back to Cork "thats the last time i'll get to wear one of them for a while"!!!
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Originally posted by SwiftandSure View PostThat shit just boils my blood!
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Originally posted by SwiftandSure View PostThat shit just boils my blood!"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by apod View PostWhy?
It's insulting.
It's as though the DF are ashamed to publicly present us in the state that we're actually in.
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Originally posted by SwiftandSure View PostBecause it's all well and good to roll us out in front of the public kitted out properly in the contemporary issue gear for the sake of keeping up appearances, but as soon as we're away from public eyes we're condemned to using the dilapidated hand-me-down pool issue 90s shite to actually soldier in.
It's insulting.
It's as though the DF are ashamed to publicly present us in the state that we're actually in.
was used by us for 17 years. Alott less time than 58 pattern.You were not in the old reserve so probably don't remember what that was like.Then we had something to crib about!
I agree though.the RDF shouldnt be paraded around in kit they are not issued with just to make them look gucci to the public.PLCE would have sufficed.In fact the St Patricks day parade in Tralee had RDF troops doing just that.Only a few years ago my unit paraded through Limerick on St Patricks day wearing PLCE.What was the problem? None.
Sure we all want to play with the latest Gucci kit.It's a soldiers nature,along with the nature to crib.But get this.We are all on different rungs of the ladder.The boys in the wing always get the very latest kit.The PDF is always a step behind and the RDF is always at the bottom of the pile by virtue of their place in the food chain.It sucks yeah,but it ain't going to change anytime soon."Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by apod View PostFFS there is nothing wrong with the issue PLCE.
But when it's given to you at the last minute from pool issue, missing clips, buckles, pouches, straps cut away and the material ripped/torn or even melted in some circumstances, it's no longer serviceable.
I agree though.the RDF shouldnt be paraded around in kit they are not issued with just to make them look gucci to the public.PLCE would have sufficed.In fact the St Patricks day parade in Tralee had RDF troops doing just that.Only a few years ago my unit paraded through Limerick on St Patricks day wearing PLCE.What was the problem? None.
Sure we all want to play with the latest Gucci kit.It's a soldiers nature,along with the nature to crib.But get this.We are all on different rungs of the ladder.The boys in the wing always get the very latest kit.The PDF is always a step behind and the RDF is always at the bottom of the pile by virtue of their place in the food chain.It sucks yeah,but it ain't going to change anytime soon.
I fully accept that I (we) am at the bottom of the pile. I get what I want out of the RDF, so I'm happy where I am. I wouldn't want to go overseas or be called up to shovel snow, dig sandbags or stag on a gate because the pay and terms would be shit. It suits me personally that the RDF is in the position it's in because it doesn't impact on my home life unless I want it to.
That's not necessarily what I want for the RDF as a whole though. I've written all over these boards where I'd like to see the RDF heading. I know we're not ever going to be major league high speed door kickers fighting terrorism in foreign fields, nor do I expect us all to have personal issue NVGs, MOLLE PCs, and AUG A3s. But I would like it if the RDF was afforded the small amount of respect it deserves when it does achieve and/or excels the standard beset for it, and given a proper seat at the DF table when it comes to deciding all matters RDF. Not just playing dress up for the local paper on St Patrick's Day, then stripped and put back in it's box like an illegitimate ginger love child.
I buy my own Gucci gear, because the issued stuff is consistently of a poor standard (it's shite basically), couldn't give a fĂșck what people think of me for wearing it. One thing I will say though, when you see reservists go into the field, more often than not, those that settle solely for what little the DF actually issues, tend to cry off early with blisters in their 24Bs, no energy bars in their CEFO, working off a ladle full of Hotlock Stew, weren't issued a Norgie, no brew kit, no gloves.... Etc etc.
The lads who've taken the time/money to build their own CEFO whether Belt kits / Vests / Chest Rigs, bought their own boots, base layers, warm gear, daysacks, who won't compromise on what the DF thinks is good enough for them; they're the guys who'll still be walking tall at Endex.
I reserve my right to crib.
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