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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post

    70m is even smaller than the P50 class.

    That may be a replacement option for the CPVs

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    Quote Originally Posted by A/TEL View Post
    70m is even smaller than the P50 class.

    That may be a replacement option for the CPVs
    How would that low section handle Irish sea states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky42 View Post
    How would that low section handle Irish sea states?
    Easy answer. It would ship it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Easy answer. It would ship it all.
    It's a single task ship waiting to break in two.

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    Or it could be a new way to launch RHIB's , flood the mid section and float the RHIB out .
    Last edited by Laners; 1st April 2020 at 17:44.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laners View Post
    Or it could be a new way to launch RHIB's , flood the mid section and float the RHIB out .
    To my uneducated eye, it looks like the problem would be stopping them floating out regardless...
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    The design is more interesting the more one looks at it.

    Looking at the ship's complete side view there is a jump in the stiffness at the cargo area but this is no more than what is seen on almost every Offshore Support Vessel of a similar size. I agree it would be better to protect the cargo bay more but structurally it should be sufficient.
    Move from the bow towards the aft we have the standard OTO Melara 76mm Super Rapid, just behind is the RAS folder boom.
    The mast is an integrated mast which is much smaller than the iMast fitted to several Dutch vessels. It seems to be less than half the volume. This is linked to the locally produced Orion CMS. Abeam the bridge are two 50 cals and either two 25mm or 30mm cannon in RWS.

    Then come a open cargo area with 12 TEU's and a 1506 LCVP ( a standard size landing craft). Naturally with a large crane for lifting operations. This is most likely to be able to support operations in the Galápagos Islands which are part of Ecuador. Either side of the crane are two small RIBs.

    Then a large helicopter pad for the 11tons class: NH90, MH70, AS 532, the latter of which is operated by the Ecuadorian Army. Also to be seen in the landing pad are the cutouts to allow TEU's to be lowered into the mission bay below. The mission bay also is equipped with two fast interceptor boats that are stern launched.

    The mast is really interesting it is a co-development of the shipyard and the Italian company Virtualabs which supplies the major electronic systems such as the SEADAR radar and DRIAC ESM system. It would be interesting to know just how much the integrated mast and the CMS costs to see if that would be something that could be part of MLU for the P60 class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EUFighter View Post
    The design is more interesting the more one looks at it.

    Looking at the ship's complete side view there is a jump in the stiffness at the cargo area but this is no more than what is seen on almost every Offshore Support Vessel of a similar size. I agree it would be better to protect the cargo bay more but structurally it should be sufficient.
    Move from the bow towards the aft we have the standard OTO Melara 76mm Super Rapid, just behind is the RAS folder boom.
    The mast is an integrated mast which is much smaller than the iMast fitted to several Dutch vessels. It seems to be less than half the volume. This is linked to the locally produced Orion CMS. Abeam the bridge are two 50 cals and either two 25mm or 30mm cannon in RWS.

    Then come a open cargo area with 12 TEU's and a 1506 LCVP ( a standard size landing craft). Naturally with a large crane for lifting operations. This is most likely to be able to support operations in the Galápagos Islands which are part of Ecuador. Either side of the crane are two small RIBs.

    Then a large helicopter pad for the 11tons class: NH90, MH70, AS 532, the latter of which is operated by the Ecuadorian Army. Also to be seen in the landing pad are the cutouts to allow TEU's to be lowered into the mission bay below. The mission bay also is equipped with two fast interceptor boats that are stern launched.

    The mast is really interesting it is a co-development of the shipyard and the Italian company Virtualabs which supplies the major electronic systems such as the SEADAR radar and DRIAC ESM system. It would be interesting to know just how much the integrated mast and the CMS costs to see if that would be something that could be part of MLU for the P60 class.
    This is a ship tailored to a purpose. It will operate in a mostlly benign AOP on the Equator. It looks congested amidships, and has the stability problem to counter balance the launch of a large LC (VP?). The launching and size of RHIB's raises questions for rigging and boarding, and if FRC type craft are available to stern launch, why the smaller craft at all. I'm all for good radar and Combat systems both now and in future upgrades.

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