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  • Thanks for the modification above certainly makes it easier to compare.

    I've one other sort of related question, if you read the data on the A-100, it says that funnels are unnecessary due to "side exhausts leading through the hull's side shell", anyone know why this has not been the case for the A-200, would leave more deck space?

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    • Defence Forces Equipment.
      03/11/2005
      Minister for Defence (Mr. O’Dea):
      ...................................... Planning is well under way on the replacement programme for the next Naval Service ships to reach the end of their economic life...............

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      • Have you a source for that quote sledger?


        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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        • it confirms the purchase of 15 further Mowags too
          Last edited by pym; 5 November 2005, 06:47.

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          • Here it is.....

            Originally posted by Mr. O’Dea:
            Information Zoom I propose to take Questions Nos. 11 and 27 together. The gross allocation for the Defence and Army Pensions Votes was €566 million in 1995, €789 million in 2000 and €934 million in 2005. The level of expenditure on defence in any particular country is influenced by a variety of factors, including that country’s political and security environment, its history, demography and economy. While defence spending in this country has fallen as a percentage of GNP in recent years, this is not due to any reduction in the level of defence expenditure, but rather because of the massive increase in GNP.

            There has been an unprecedented level of expenditure on infrastructure and equipment for the Defence Forces in recent years. This was made possible by the Government’s decision that pay savings arising from the reorganisation of the Defence Forces set out in the White Paper 2000, along with proceeds from the sale of surplus properties, would be fully reallocated for investment in modern facilities and equipment. More than €192 million was spent on the capital investment programme for the upgrade of barracks, accommodation and other facilities between 1997 and the end of 2004. This year’s Defence Estimate includes a further €19 million for such capital works.

            Substantial progress has also been made in recent years with the acquisition of modern equipment for the Army, Air Corps and the Naval Service. During the past six years, more than €200 million has been expended on the purchase of 65 armoured personnel carriers and the Javelin missile system for the Army, new patrol vessels for the Naval Service and new trainer aircraft for the Air Corps. Last January, I signed contracts for six new helicopters for the Air Corps costing more than €60 million. Planning is well underway on the replacement programme for the next Naval Service ships to reach the end of their economic life and a further 15 armoured personnel carriers, APC, will be added to our fleet. It is expected that the contract for the additional 15 APCs will be signed by the end of the year. Further details of the re-equipment programme are contained in a reply to a later question on the Order Paper.
            Originally posted by Mr. O’Dea:
            Minister for Defence (Mr. O’Dea): Information Zoom I would take issue with the views expressed by PDFORRA on the subject of defence spending, with particular regard to expenditure on modern equipment. The position is that there has been an unprecedented level of expenditure on infrastructure and equipment for the Defence Forces in recent years. I have seen proof positive of this investment in my visits to military barracks around the country and my experience is that the morale of soldiers is generally very high from the equipment and infrastructural perspective.

            The increased level of expenditure on equipment for the Army, Air Corps and Naval Service was made possible by the Government’s decision that pay savings arising from the reorganisation of the Defence Forces set out in the White Paper of 2000, along with proceeds from the sale of surplus properties, would be reallocated for investment in modern facilities and equipment.

            Investment in new equipment for the Defence Forces is provided for under various subheads of the Defence Vote relating to defensive equipment, mechanical transport, aircraft, ships and naval stores, engineering, communications and information technology equipment etc. All elements of the Defence Forces, the Army, Air Corps, Naval Service and the Reserve have benefited from the investment in new equipment.

            Over the past six years, over €200 million has been expended on the purchase of 65 armoured personnel carriers for the Army, new patrol vessels for the Naval Service and new trainer aircraft for the Air Corps.

            The programme of investment is continuing apace. Last January, I signed contracts for six new helicopters for the Air Corps costing over €60 million. Planning is well under way on the replacement programme for the next Naval Service ships to reach the end of their economic life and a further 15 armoured personnel carriers will be added to our current fleet. It is expected that the contract for the additional 15 APCs will be signed by the end of the year.

            There are also ongoing acquisitions of modern equipment for use by soldiers on operational duties. The individual soldier is now required to carry an array of equipment whilst engaged on such duties. In that regard, one of the essential ongoing equipment acquisition projects relates to the provision of a modern integrated protection and load carrying system for members of the Defence Forces. This involves, inter alia, the personal protective equipment consisting of body armour and helmet. The aim is to have a new, lighter protective system, consisting of body armour and helmet, which is compatible with all current and future systems required for each soldier.

            A tender competition is currently in train for the provision of body armour for the individual soldier. It is expected that an order will be placed shortly for 6,000 units. In addition, a separate tender competition for helmets is also currently in train for the acquisition of 12,000 units. It is expected that an order will be placed in the near future. A tender competition for the replacement of the existing FN 9mm Browning automatic pistol within the Defence Forces is also in train. It is expected that an order will be placed in the first quarter of 2006.

            The equipment issued to the Defence Forces is in keeping with the most modern requirements and the highest international standards. The ongoing investment in the Defence Forces will ensure that this remains to be the case and that the Defence Forces are suitably well equipped to carry out their roles both at home or overseas.

            Question No. 26 answered with Question No. 18.

            Question No. 27 answered with Question No. 11.
            Last edited by Guest; 5 November 2005, 08:08.

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            • "Planning is well underway on the replacement programme for the next Naval Service ships"


              This is all it says about the NS

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              • From here

                “Planning is well underway on the replacement programme for the next Naval Service ships*. Another fifteen armoured personnel carriers will be added to our current fleet and I hope to sign the APC contract by the end of this year.”
                There ya go.

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                • Thanks!

                  I looked at the press release on the GoI website and saw it mentions the 2008-2010 for the three P21 class ships.

                  I had hoped it was something more definite.


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                  • Under the established 30 year rule the following Naval Vessels are coming towards the end of their economic life:

                    · L.É. Emer (P21) due for replacement in early 2008,
                    · L.É. Aoife (P22) due for replacement in late 2009,
                    · L.É. Aisling (P23) due for replacement in mid 2010,

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                    • Nothing new there.


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • Another mention in todays sunday world that the Minister has authorised the NS to seek replacement vessels for 3 of the current fleet.


                        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                        • any time frame given?!?
                          What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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                          • See post #133


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • Ah i had assumed that the
                              the Minister has authorised the NS to seek replacement vessels for 3 of the current fleet.
                              meant it would have been done ahead of the current scheduel
                              What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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                              • Cdr Mark Mellet has an interesting article in this months Cosantoir about the proposed "Blue/Green" ship for anyone interested.

                                Maybe he reads this section?


                                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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