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Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostWell the Figures mentioned suggest some leeway:
The cost of the three new ships ranges from €160 million at the lower end of the scale to €190 million at the upper end.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostExcellent news, I know inflation is high, but the Roisin & Niamh cost over €25 million each (2002). So hopefully the NS are going to be getting much larger and more capable vessels(with more potential roles).Dr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?
Dr. Venture: Dean, you smell like a whore
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US$110m is rougly €82m....so that still leaves a nice margin for manover considering, and correct me if I am wrong, there is €90m set aside for the MRV, meaning there is about €35m each for the other 2 ships.What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.
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If the Navy are going to have a humanitarian role they are going to need some way of getting stuff on to the beach. There might not be any infrastructure where they go and it would be short sighted if they couldn't land aid using their own resources. They should take a leaf from the NZN and copy the craft they have on the Canterbury.Fail to prepare....prepare to FAIL!
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Originally posted by Odin_ie View PostUS$110m is rougly €82m....so that still leaves a nice margin for manover considering, and correct me if I am wrong, there is €90m set aside for the MRV, meaning there is about €35m each for the other 2 ships.Dr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?
Dr. Venture: Dean, you smell like a whore
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Just thought I'd revisit this German design. It was mentioned much earlier.
The Type 404 Elbe Class.
In Bundesmarine service they act as support ships for Minesweeper, Submarine or Patrol Boats.
Length: 100.55m
Beam: 15.4m
Draft: 4.05m
Displacement: 3170t
Propulsion:
1 Deutz MWM SBV diesel engine, 2562kW
Speed: 15kts
Range: 2600nm
Bow thruster
Armament:
2 Fliegerfaust 2 surface-to-air missile stands (MANPADS)
2 Rheinmetall Rh202 20mm autocannon
Supplies:
max 24 standard 6.2m containers
700m³ fuel
60m³ aviation (helicopter) fuel
280m³ fresh water
160t ammunition
40t supplies
Disposal:
5t solid waste
180m³ waste water
32m³ waste oil
No hangar, but a helo deck was added for Sea king sized or larger helicopters
Complement: 40 (standard) + >38 (repair party, passengers, squadron staff)
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
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Suitability?
Limited draught and range - looks like it's designed for the Baltic or the North Sea rather than the Atlantic. Seems to be more of a tender for flotillas of small craft rather than a landing ship. (Some of the Elbe class have had their 20mms replaced by 27mm RWSs, in line with German Navy policy.)
More info. and lots of pics. at http://www.marine-portraits.de/deuts...513/index.html
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