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    US Army............WTF!

    Being in artillery all I can possibly say when I seen this picture is, WTF is going on!?

    Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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    They appear to be firing a mortar.

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    Yep. It's definately a mortar
    There is no problem that cannot be fixed with high explosive.

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    For a second there I taught they all had lost something or they all had back problems.
    Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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    Yer not much of an artilleryman if you can't see the bipod legs on this mortar,
    which are clearly visible in the picture.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger View Post
    Yep. It's definately a mortar
    Seconded

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    I suspect the bipod legs were doing there usual jumping jacks bit and knock off his bubbles and MAP so he's giving a go at holding them down,,,

    would work but not very safe and prob very sore on his joints but hey when your friends are at risk you do the work thats needed!!!

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    Its for when you want to get a few bombs into an area very quickly

    the bipod legs are held and it saves valuable time in relaying.


    this action wont take out a point target

    but if your layed on an area and next thing

    the area is full of baddies

    then this method will allow you put maximun bombs on an area target within a short time
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    I am not an experienced military man like yourself Paul but as a civilian observer it appears to me from the smoke in the picture that there has been some kind of discharge from that tripod thingy.

    Judging by the way the soldiers are trying to cover their ears it must have created one heck of a loud bang when it went off.

    I am only guessing here you understand but it looks like it may be an artillery weapon of some kind and that the soldiers were probably firing it in the direction of the enemy.

    I hope that helps.

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    I'd imagine they're in the middle of some FFE and are saving themselves a bit of time by keeping the bipod legs steady as possible?

    Now the real question I'd like to ask as a mortarologist is, why aren't they kneeling to attention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello Alaska View Post
    I'd imagine they're in the middle of some FFE and are saving themselves a bit of time by keeping the bipod legs steady as possible?

    Now the real question I'd like to ask as a mortarologist is, why aren't they kneeling to attention?
    Because they havent done their course in the Battalion.
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    Hi all,
    Perhaps they had to adjust the aim of the mortar, beyond the traverse limit, by moving the bipod legs and the shot just fired is the bedding-in round, ie, the baseplate is now settled but they still have to secure the legs.The ground appears to be sandy so the mortar will shift as each round is fired,requiring frequent readjustment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    Hi all,
    Perhaps they had to adjust the aim of the mortar, beyond the traverse limit, by moving the bipod legs and the shot just fired is the bedding-in round, ie, the baseplate is now settled but they still have to secure the legs.The ground appears to be sandy so the mortar will shift as each round is fired,requiring frequent readjustment.
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    You never have to go through bedding in for a bipod three.

    As you said, it's simply that the ground seems to be too hard for the bipod legs to stick into the ground.

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    They have just fired and I does give off one hell of a band, but what I really want to know is. Why one of them is on the gound, underneath the mortar holding the bipods while its being fired?
    Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul View Post
    They have just fired and I does give off one hell of a band, but what I really want to know is. Why one of them is on the gound, underneath the mortar holding the bipods while its being fired?
    Considering how hard the ground looks, it's more than likely an attempt to stop the legs from jumping when the bomb leaves the barrell.

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    If the angle of the legs from the barrel is anything to go by, then they have not dug in and will shift when the gun is fired, throwing off the sighting.
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    Back in the day when we fired the Brandt 120 mm, If we were firing with the carriage removed (Mortar could be fired with carriage attached to bipods, which made it quicker to get into action, but was a **** to traverse because you had to lift the weight of the carriage aswell as the bipods/barrell) the the No's 3+4 would keep a foot on the bipod shoes and this would stop it from jumping. Whereas when the carriage was on it weighed it down so it was'nt necessary to stand on the shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello Alaska View Post
    You never have to go through bedding in for a bipod three.

    As you said, it's simply that the ground seems to be too hard for the bipod legs to stick into the ground.
    In that pic, the ground inside the ring of sandbags seems to be sand laid on top of gravel (look at the lying soldiers left foot there is a mark on the ground from his toe) so if anything the ground is too light to take a firm hold of the bipod.
    But there's no danger
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    Though it could be arranged
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    We could send you to johannesburg.

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    I'm surprised that the are not using active ear defenders.

    The latest active types block out the thump very effectively without any loss of normal situation awareness. You can also get on with the job without having to play ostrich every round.

    I doubt that they were in the middle of an urgent FFE. If so, I would expect rounds in hand ready to follow the first one into the tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbocalves View Post
    In that pic, the ground inside the ring of sandbags seems to be sand laid on top of gravel (look at the lying soldiers left foot there is a mark on the ground from his toe) so if anything the ground is too light to take a firm hold of the bipod.
    It is definitely a prepared mortar position (Hesco)

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    Could be a contact lens situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    It is definitely a prepared mortar position (Hesco)
    seen
    But there's no danger
    It's a professional career
    Though it could be arranged
    With just a word in Mr. Churchill's ear
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    We could send you to johannesburg.

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    can't believe this thread is still going

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    You can tell from the angle that

    a late popping illumn has been fired

    the LPI's hang over the target for up to 5 hours and illuminate on command

    we ahvent got them yet- but the Yids were using them back in the leb in 98-01
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pod View Post
    can't believe this thread is still going
    As apposed to the several totally useless treads that were started and are still going.....
    Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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