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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasia View Post
    To keep weapons north of the Litani, as UNSCR 1701 requires, needs a far more robust mission than the UNIFIL mandate provides. The shit storm it would create if UNIFIL went heavy handed would cripple the mission in its current guise. Everything UNIFIL does is done with the permission of the locals. Hezbollah enjoys massive support in South Lebanon. Piss them off at your peril.
    Does the LAF take the same approach?

    Considering Hezbollah is in Government in Lebanon

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Does the LAF take the same approach?

    Considering Hezbollah is in Government in Lebanon
    Yes.

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    There was a very interesting documentary on TG 4; it may have been the Fiorsceal series and it showed how close Christians and Hizbollah supporters live in Beirut and the way they live their lives. Hizbollah dominate virtually all Muslim districts, at the point of a gun and can raise a protest mob at the drop of a hat. Non-attendance is not tolerated and anyone can be a target, especially Lebanese officialdom of any form (cops, firemen, govt officials and so on). In one case, Christians and Hizbollah supporters lived about 50 feet apart and would routinely let off a burst or two at each other, so all buildings facing each other had bricked up windows, sheet metal dividers cutting streets in half and guns always ready. One bizarre thing was the custom of using underground car parks and the bottom floors of apartment buildings as cemetries! I kid you not. They couldnt or wouldnt be seperated from their dead, so they used the abovementioned as cemetries and took over derelict buildings and dug out graves at the bottom levels or raised tombs over their dead. The Lebanese Govt was only tolerated at the whim of the Hizbollah leadership and the Leb army clearly did not want to go toe to toe with them, so essentially, a huge part of Lebanon is not under it's own control. The UN knows perfectly well that if the Israelis dont want a shooting war with Hizbollah, then trying to get the Irish or any other UN force to take them on would be tantamount to suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    There was a very interesting documentary on TG 4; it may have been the Fiorsceal series and it showed how close Christians and Hizbollah supporters live in Beirut and the way they live their lives. Hizbollah dominate virtually all Muslim districts, at the point of a gun and can raise a protest mob at the drop of a hat. Non-attendance is not tolerated and anyone can be a target, especially Lebanese officialdom of any form (cops, firemen, govt officials and so on). In one case, Christians and Hizbollah supporters lived about 50 feet apart and would routinely let off a burst or two at each other, so all buildings facing each other had bricked up windows, sheet metal dividers cutting streets in half and guns always ready. One bizarre thing was the custom of using underground car parks and the bottom floors of apartment buildings as cemetries! I kid you not. They couldnt or wouldnt be seperated from their dead, so they used the abovementioned as cemetries and took over derelict buildings and dug out graves at the bottom levels or raised tombs over their dead. The Lebanese Govt was only tolerated at the whim of the Hizbollah leadership and the Leb army clearly did not want to go toe to toe with them, so essentially, a huge part of Lebanon is not under it's own control. The UN knows perfectly well that if the Israelis dont want a shooting war with Hizbollah, then trying to get the Irish or any other UN force to take them on would be tantamount to suicide.
    The Yanks, Brits, French and Italians of the MNTF withdrew from Beirut, despite their MBTs, battleships and aircraft carriers. The IDF and all their might failed. Expecting a poorly armed and resourced UNIFIL that has its budget slashed in recent years to achieve what all of these could not is preposterous.

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