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    "Ireland has participated in UN Peacekeeping since the 1950s. Today more than 400 Irish "Blue Helmets" serve in Lebanon. 3 peacekeepers describe their pride in serving their country and the United Nations."


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    Probably a fudge due to the old story of NOT enough reserve/replacement flexibility in Standing Forces. We are a long way from 2 battalions in the Congo. With continued attrition, efforts will fall short in all spheres, ATCP, SAR, HADR, overseas missions will all be penny pinching and somewhat threadbare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientmariner View Post
    Probably a fudge due to the old story of NOT enough reserve/replacement flexibility in Standing Forces. We are a long way from 2 battalions in the Congo. With continued attrition, efforts will fall short in all spheres, ATCP, SAR, HADR, overseas missions will all be penny pinching and somewhat threadbare.
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    Irish Bn minus (430 personnel with just 1 APC Coy and Cav Tp) with a Swedish Coy Gp (230 personnel)

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    Irish Bn minus (400 personnel) with Finnish Pln plus (60 personnel)

    It could be more to do with not having sufficient APCs and some key capabilities (eg MOs) being insufficient

    Wasn’t the whole DF something like 6,000-6,500 when there was 2 Irish Inf Bns (plus I think an Armd Car Sqn) in Congo?

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    The comments underneath the story were less ths complimentary about Unifil. One was complaining that in 1982 Unifil soldiers were windsurfing and jogging...
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
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    Irish Bn minus (430 personnel with just 1 APC Coy and Cav Tp) with a Swedish Coy Gp (230 personnel)

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    Irish Bn minus (400 personnel) with Finnish Pln plus (60 personnel)

    It could be more to do with not having sufficient APCs and some key capabilities (eg MOs) being insufficient

    Wasn’t the whole DF something like 6,000-6,500 when there was 2 Irish Inf Bns (plus I think an Armd Car Sqn) in Congo?
    In 1946 post Emergency ( the rest of the world called it WW11 ) the strength of the Defence Forces was reduced to 12,500 personnel with voluntary reserve elements and based on 3 Bde areas plus CTC , Aercorps , and Naval Service. The remainder at home when the 2 Bns + were in the Congo could have been around 6,500. Since 1924 the control of the PDF has been held in a containment structure with establishments been subject to annual permissable strengths as a percentage of that establishment. Losing a Bde and closing Mil Bks is retarding concepts of developing efficient forces especially if the powers that be see no threat and see no responsibility to aid a neighbours threat.

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    https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/08/2...south-lebanon/

    Israel and US seems to want Unifil to take a more active role against Hezbollah since Israels attacks on Lebanon over the last week. This seems to be an attack from last year, does anyone know where the soldiers are from.

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    Israeli vehicle hit by missile and now shelling in area of Bint Jubayl (IRISHBATT HQ)

    https://twitter.com/mickthehack/stat...855136768?s=21

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    Groundhog called. Lets hope everyone stays safe ( reported from RTE)
    Last edited by trellheim; 1st September 2019 at 20:13.
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-38456435.html

    Irish peacekeeping troops in Lebanon under protection after their operations hit by Israeli mortar fire - Independent.ie
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    IRISH peacekeeping troops have spent several hours under protection in specially constructed bunkers after their area of operations in south Lebanon was struck by Israeli mortar fire.

    The peacekeepers, members of the 114th infantry battalion, were caught up in a firefight between the Israeli army and the Iranian-backed Hezbollah faction this afternoon.

    Most of the 450-strong battalion went into “groundhog” – taking cover in the bunkers – as mortars and artillery shells fell close to their positions.

    But none of the troops was injured and the Defence Forces here said all personnel were safe.

    The Israeli army returned fire after one of its bases came under attack from Hezbollah militants using anti tank guided missiles.

    The Israelis said a military ambulance also came under attack but there were no casualties.

    Hezbollah later took responsibility for the attack and said it had targeted an armoured personnel. It claimed it had destroyed a military vehicle in northern Israel but this was denied by the Israelis.

    Tension has been rising in Lebanon over the past month and this has been fuelled by reports that Hezbollah were planning attacks in retaliation for Israeli attacks on Iranian assets, stretching from Iraq to Syria and including the Lebanese capital, Beirut, which was hit by a series of explosions last Sunday.

    The current Irish battalion has been in southern Lebanon since May and is due to end its six month rotation in November.

    The battalion is currently the biggest Irish deployment overseas on a peace mission.

    The Israelis were reported this afternoon to have launched bomb attacks on sites near the Lebanese border town of Maroun al-Ras and the surrounding area, with artillery cannons and attack helicopters firing about 100 shells and bombs.

    The Irish battalion comprises troops from 29 counties, with the biggest number (72) being contributed by the 28 infantry battalion, based at Finner Camp in Co Donegal, with others drawn from Dublin, Athlone and Dundalk barracks as well as Gormanston Camp in Co Meath.

    The battalion also includes ten soldiers from the armed forces in Malta.

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    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Israel is saying that casualties claimed by Hezbollah from the hit vehicle are dummies.

    Fake news????

    Interesting that the Maltese are part of the Bn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Israel is saying that casualties claimed by Hezbollah from the hit vehicle are dummies.

    Fake news????

    Interesting that the Maltese are part of the Bn.
    Well... just a few days ago:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e_iOSApp_Other

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    Has there been any international reaction? I have not seen any press relating to condemnations on either side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasia View Post
    Has there been any international reaction? I have not seen any press relating to condemnations on either side
    Israel launching air strikes in Iraq over the last week or so got very little airtime/analysis - quite a change from 1991...

    We live in surreal times.

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    On a general point, (obviously without breaking OPSEC), if U.N. troops spot an attack about to take place from one side or the other, what are their options?
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Honestly I can't see how anybody could answer that question Flamingo without breaking OPSEC as the answer would disclose SOP's.Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Honestly I can't see how anybody could answer that question Flamingo without breaking OPSEC as the answer would disclose SOP's.Sorry.
    No worries
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.time...n-lebanon/amp/

    Calls for increase in UNIFIL strength from Israel and the US

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    To keep weapons north of the Litani, as UNSCR 1701 requires, needs a far more robust mission than the UNIFIL mandate provides. The shit storm it would create if UNIFIL went heavy handed would cripple the mission in its current guise. Everything UNIFIL does is done with the permission of the locals. Hezbollah enjoys massive support in South Lebanon. Piss them off at your peril.

    It really is a no win situation for UNIFIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by recoil View Post
    https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/08/2...south-lebanon/

    Israel and US seems to want Unifil to take a more active role against Hezbollah since Israels attacks on Lebanon over the last week. This seems to be an attack from last year, does anyone know where the soldiers are from.
    I finally got that video to work. With the most softly softly SOP's and ROE's imaginable, that still seems a pretty sorry performance on the part of the UN troops.

    I note the young boy in the red shirt, obviously brought along as a human shield and all ready to be filmed traumatised and in tears after the nasty soldiers did something. You can see one of the adults directing him where to stand.
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasia View Post
    To keep weapons north of the Litani, as UNSCR 1701 requires, needs a far more robust mission than the UNIFIL mandate provides. The shit storm it would create if UNIFIL went heavy handed would cripple the mission in its current guise. Everything UNIFIL does is done with the permission of the locals. Hezbollah enjoys massive support in South Lebanon. Piss them off at your peril.

    It really is a no win situation for UNIFIL
    Which does rather beg the question why are they there?
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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