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    Helmet strap for new style issue Irish helmet?

    Well lads jus wondering if anyone knows a source for a replacement chinstrap for the new style issue helmet? A mate of mine picked me one up in an Australia of all places (it's the same issue helmet)but the chinstrap isn't in the best condition? Cheers lads
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic-Warrior View Post
    Well lads jus wondering if anyone knows a source for a replacement chinstrap for the new style issue helmet? A mate of mine picked me one up in an Australia of all places (it's the same issue helmet)but the chinstrap isn't in the best condition? Cheers lads
    I have one if you want it.Brand new.Yours if you want it.PM me your details.
    Only snag though its tan leather as per the old helmet.The new ones are black.Same design though.If the colour isnt an issue you are welcome to it.
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    Cheers mate that would be great il pm you my address, I'm actually stuck for one for my issue helmet aswell I use it for shooting competitions! But if it fits the new one il use it on it!
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    AFAIK the straps for the RBH303 are the same types of straps used on the MICH the americans use.

    You can find loads of custom bits and bobs on American sites that sell military stuff.

    You can get straps with a nape protector on the back as well as different pads for the inside of the helmet etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceghetti View Post
    AFAIK the straps for the RBH303 are the same types of straps used on the MICH the americans use.

    You can find loads of custom bits and bobs on American sites that sell military stuff.

    You can get straps with a nape protector on the back as well as different pads for the inside of the helmet etc.
    Sorry mate but you are wrong.The MICH uses a completely different chinstrap assembly to the RBH303IE which is our current helmet.Anyway its no longer an issue for him as i am gonna hook him up with a chinstrap.Thanks for the input though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Sorry mate but you are wrong.The MICH uses a completely different chinstrap assembly to the RBH303IE which is our current helmet.Anyway its no longer an issue for him as i am gonna hook him up with a chinstrap.Thanks for the input though.
    As i understand it the issue 3-point chinstrap is connected to the helmet via a belt loop at the back and the bolts at the front. Kinda like in the old issue helmet.

    I was looking at the issue RHB303IE that a buddy of mine has and it looks like the locations of the helmet bolts are in the same location as the MICH helmet that i have. On the MICH the chinstraps are 4-point chinstraps and are attached via these bolts so i thought they'd be interchangeable.

    Here's a good pic of the bolts i'm on about:


    My guess is that you'd just use the bolts at the back instead of using the belt loop. Meaning it is possible to mount a 4-point chinstrap with a nape protector.

    If not then my bad, it was just an idea.
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    As i understand it the issue 3-point chinstrap is connected to the helmet via a belt loop at the back and the bolts at the front. Kinda like in the old issue helmet.
    That "belt loop" is also held in place by a bolt.

    I was looking at the issue RHB303IE that a buddy of mine has and it looks like the locations of the helmet bolts are in the same location as the MICH helmet that i have. On the MICH the chinstraps are 4-point chinstraps and are attached via these bolts so i thought they'd be interchangeable.
    My guess is that you'd just use the bolts at the back instead of using the belt loop. Meaning it is possible to mount a 4-point chinstrap with a nape protector.
    Being honest i dont know if it is possible as i dont have a MICH four point harness to play around with.Perhaps it is.Here's a pic of the helmet interior.Perhaps that will give you a clue as to wheeter it is possible.You cant see the bolt holding the "belt loop" in place at the rear but it is there

    If not then my bad, it was just an idea. \
    No worries at all.Not a bad idea.
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    Did the helmet rank markings ever go on issue or did certain people just get their hands on them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    That "belt loop" is also held in place by a bolt.


    Being honest i dont know if it is possible as i dont have a MICH four point harness to play around with.Perhaps it is.Here's a pic of the helmet interior.Perhaps that will give you a clue as to wheeter it is possible.You cant see the bolt holding the "belt loop" in place at the rear but it is there


    No worries at all.Not a bad idea.
    Looking at the picture it looks like it is possible to mount a 4-point chinstrap.

    But are the bolts removable? Or are they rivets that must be taken out with a drill? If they aren't removable some places sell a bolt set along with the chin strap and nape protector that you can use to replace the original bolts. On my helmet they are just unscrewed with an allen key.

    All you have to do is unscrew the bolts, put the harness straps in place, and screw the bolts back on.

    By the looks of it the bolts are being used to hold the suspension system, but the chin straps should fit in there as well no problem.

    In my helmet the bolts just hold the chinstrap and instead of a suspension system i have removable ZAP pads that are held on with velcro.

    Looks kinda like this:


    Most chinstraps that use the bolts like this are usually universal, as long as the bolts are in around the same location then the chinstraps from the MICH can be used in any other helmet.

    My helmet isn't even an official MICH helmet. It's a South African helmet that's based on it, in the same way the RBH303 is an Israeli helmet based on the MICH. My one is actually a Global Armour PASCUT helmet but it has the exact same chinstrap as the MICH.

    Global Armour PASCUT:
    http://www.globalarmour.co.za/produc...-pid73cid2.htm
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    Looking at mine I think it would be possible to leave the anchors of the straps in place and just change the main body of the strap which I think should be easy enough to replace!
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    I do hope you people only plan on using these non-issued helmets for the likes of airsoft as using them on exercise be it with the PDF or RDF would be a major issue with health and safety. If you go over and injure your head you are not covered and you'll more than likely just get bounced off.
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    Helmets aren't personal issue with most RDF units so should anything happen such as a fall happen any type of DF issue helmet should be fine iv never seen helmets checked as to their protection level at anything exercises, shooting practices or brigade or all army competitions. In fact at this years eastern brigade shoot I'd say at least 30% of competitors had the new issue helmet! And there wasnt a word said or question asked!!! In my opinion once it's a real world helmet be it Irish,British or American and offers suitable protection there shouldn't be too much said!! It may not uniformity but at least they are real world items and not replicas!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AATWT View Post
    I do hope you people only plan on using these non-issued helmets for the likes of airsoft as using them on exercise be it with the PDF or RDF would be a major issue with health and safety. If you go over and injure your head you are not covered and you'll more than likely just get bounced off.
    Mate, if I had to go to war with the RDF, and I had the choice of buy my own helmet and take the consequences off some H&S jobsworth bollocking me, or wearing the issued, 10-20 year old helmets, which aren't personally issued, are missing most of the internal fittings and the structural/ballistic integrity of which is well and truly compromised at this stage after being thrown on and off trucks with every range practice since it came into RDF service; I'd sooner take the bollocking on the chin and let the H&S twat lose his head, rather than me lose mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AATWT View Post
    I do hope you people only plan on using these non-issued helmets for the likes of airsoft as using them on exercise be it with the PDF or RDF would be a major issue with health and safety. If you go over and injure your head you are not covered and you'll more than likely just get bounced off.
    What about the fact that you'd have less chance to injure yourself with a good helmet rather then wearing the issued one?

    What kind of protection is the helmet gonna provide when it's issued 2 sizes too big for ya and is falling off your head?

    I'd rather avoid getting injured in the first place rather then worry about paying for it afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceghetti View Post
    What kind of protection is the helmet gonna provide when it's issued 2 sizes too big for ya and is falling off your head?
    I have the direct opposite problem, fat head syndrome, I never found one that fit correctly and I spent an hour going though about 200 of them, no labels of course!
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    Lads in my unit have purchased MICH ACH helmets online.

    Level 3A ballistic protection.

    Looks like the rabintex AND you can actually wear hearing protection properly with it.

    i will replace my old bag of sh*t helmet myself too after borrowing a new rabintex one for the last ex I was on and seeing how much more comfortably you can operate when your hearing protection fits snuggly without cutting off the blood flow to your head.

    The RDF helmets should be replaced, current issue RDF helmets are not safe enough. when was the last time their protection and state of repair was properly evaluated, what about the bacterial fungus that grows on many of them when left in storage?? surely THAT is a H&S issue?
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    Our cq personally issued our 3 star platoon with a set of PLCE, helmet, Bergen, rocket pouches, yoke last year so everyone has a helmet of some sorts however the majority of the helmets were in absolute shite, missing most of the internals and while they probably retained the ballistic protection without the proper internals to fit them they would probably be utterly useless in a contact situation as a result a high percentage of troops are using gucci kit either Brit helmets, chest rigs, battle vests even bergens. If npeople have the kit they should be allowed use it
    it, I have even seen the cadre staff lending their IPLCS to some lads. Seems to me to be an issue of unit politics as to what some officers their allow troops to use
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    Are the rabintex helmets available online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic-Warrior View Post
    Seems to me to be an issue of unit politics as to what some officers their allow troops to use
    I was one bolloxed by an officer for wearing a brit chest rig and daysac and all I did was look down at his bad American dpm copy vest and said noting, he quickly realised the point I was making and walked off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic-Warrior View Post
    Are the rabintex helmets available online?
    You could try contacting Rabintex directly yourself.Dunno if they will sell to individuals but you could try.
    Heres a link to our current issue helmet.Know as the RBH303AU on the site but sold to us as the IE model.Follow the "contact" link to email them.
    http://www.rabintex.com/ProductView.asp?ID=8
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    You could try contacting Rabintex directly yourself.Dunno if they will sell to individuals but you could try.
    Heres a link to our current issue helmet.Know as the RBH303AU on the site but sold to us as the IE model.Follow the "contact" link to email them.
    http://www.rabintex.com/ProductView.asp?ID=8
    Better off emailing daniel technologies in dublin, they won the tender to supply the helmets to the DF, they list rabintex as one of their suppliers still. http://www.danieltechnologies.ie/
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul View Post
    I have the direct opposite problem, fat head syndrome, I never found one that fit correctly and I spent an hour going though about 200 of them, no labels of course!
    I hear you, brother! Nothing worse than a (hot) day in the butts with a too-small Israeli helmet cutting the head off you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicklaman View Post
    I hear you, brother! Nothing worse than a (hot) day in the butts with a too-small Israeli helmet cutting the head off you.
    Hot day running around is worse! the headaches a too small helmet give you are unreal.
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    22 posts about a helmet strap.. must not be much happening

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