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    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftandSure View Post
    Mate, if I had to go to war with the RDF, and I had the choice of buy my own helmet and take the consequences off some H&S jobsworth bollocking me, or wearing the issued, 10-20 year old helmets, which aren't personally issued, are missing most of the internal fittings and the structural/ballistic integrity of which is well and truly compromised at this stage after being thrown on and off trucks with every range practice since it came into RDF service; I'd sooner take the bollocking on the chin and let the H&S twat lose his head, rather than me lose mine.
    1. As the RDF is a voluntary part time organization you will never have a personal issue of a helmet. That is why they are issued on a pool basis when you are going on camp/exercise.

    2. All helmets old and new used by the DF go through stringent testing to make sure they are up to the standard required by the DF and since the RDF in recent times have not been operational and are rarely in the public eye then of course they will be well down the pecking order of the issuing of the new helmet.

    3. If you injure yourself while you are on exercise and you are wearing something other than the issued helmet you wouldnt have a leg to stand on if you were to seek compensation.

    And finally let's break this down to what it's really about. You just want to look cool, stop your crying. I to had to wear the old style helmet, yes it was missing parts it was heavy and uncomfortable but guess what I still wore it. Face it, buying helmets for personal issue to the RDF is gonna be an expensive endeavor. The RDF is not used and basically not required presently. Big respect to your enthusiasm as an organization but you guys gotta realize you're like the younger brother, you're always gonna get the hand me downs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AATWT View Post
    2. All helmets old and new used by the DF go through stringent testing to make sure they are up to the standard required by the DF and since the RDF in recent times have not been operational and are rarely in the public eye then of course they will be well down the pecking order of the issuing of the new helmet.
    So what? The tests done on the RDF's helmets would have been a few decades ago. You do know that helmets have a shelf life right?

    Almost all ballistic fibers degrade over time. Most kevlar helmets have a shelf life of about ~10 years, with manufacturer warranties only lasting for 5 years. And that is if the helmets are well looked after and kept dry.

    So the results of those tests have long gone out of date.

    Quote Originally Posted by AATWT View Post
    3. If you injure yourself while you are on exercise and you are wearing something other than the issued helmet you wouldnt have a leg to stand on if you were to seek compensation.
    So what? The original argument was to avoid the injury in the first place!

    If you want to wear the issue helmet for the sole purpose of looking for a claim then more power to ya!

    If you injured your head while wearing a proper helmet you can count yourself lucky that you weren't wearing the issue one because you wouldn't have any brainpower left to understand what "compensation" means.

    The issue helmet has pressure points all over it that stick into the users head, which for a lot of people causes headaches as well as pain on that area. If you were to fall in such a way that you landed on that part of the helmet then that pressure point is what is gonna cause the injury in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by AATWT View Post
    Face it, buying helmets for personal issue to the RDF is gonna be an expensive endeavor.
    Not really. It depends on where you get it. It's possible to get a PASGT/SPECTRA type helmet with a superior padding system for less than €100.

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