Defence Forces Artillery

[The real Jack]

Excellent video but single force concept with no helmets or CEFO/battlevests?

There is no spare battlevests to give to RDF, their CQs obviously preferred counting the CEFO & helmets in the stores instead of issuing them out!

[Come-quickly]

Our unit have been enthusiastically issuing the old CBA (About time) and the old Soldier 95 pattn chest rigs in Irish DPM that I think they bought for the first few rotations to Liberia.

It's not perfect, but it makes a hell of a difference psychologically. Especially to troops in training.

But then I think our unit have been uniquely blessed in this re-org

[Goldie fish]

There is no spare battlevests to give to RDF, their CQs obviously preferred counting the CEFO & helmets in the stores instead of issuing them out!

Who's stores? All RDF kit was transferred to PDF stores earlier this year.

[The real Jack]

Who's stores? All RDF kit was transferred to PDF stores earlier this year.

It may be a "PDF store" now but all that's changed is the unit number over the door. There's still a box of Gustav BFAs in case you get confused and can't recognise where you are.

[Goldie fish]

And who do they belong to?


Given that the gustavs were all chopped in 2000.

[DeV]

Given that the gustavs were all chopped in 2000.

Incorrect

I saw some in stores last year, having said that it also had 303s.

But they did have them in my former units stores post 2005 reorg.

[The real Jack]

And who do they belong to?


Given that the gustavs were all chopped in 2000.

Presumably they now "belong" to our unit, or more likely they've always been in the store and nobody knows what to do with them. I'm merely pointing out the lack of change in the stores apart from the unit being renamed occasionally.

[apod]

Just from a H&S point of view those RDF troops should be in helmets and CBA.Their PDF counterparts should be in CBA also!!
Oh and who are this mythical "2 Artillery regiment"??No such unit in the DF.

[Fridge Magnet]

Just from a H&S point of view those RDF troops should be in helmets and CBA.Their PDF counterparts should be in CBA also!!
Oh and who are this mythical "2 Artillery regiment"??No such unit in the DF.

What is the actual Unit name?

[The real Jack]

Just from a H&S point of view those RDF troops should be in helmets and CBA.Their PDF counterparts should be in CBA also!!

I think the DF is very slow to realise the going to jail nature of the H&S legislation in regards to **** ups.

Oh and who are this mythical "2 Artillery regiment"??No such unit in the DF.

Are they 2 FAR/2 AR/2 Bde Arty or what?

[DeV]

Just from a H&S point of view those RDF troops should be in helmets and CBA.Their PDF counterparts should be in CBA also!!
Oh and who are this mythical "2 Artillery regiment"??No such unit in the DF.

They are either 2 Bde Artillery Regt or 2 Artillery Regt (no Fd anymore)

[GoneToTheCanner]

okay, can anyone point what H&S legislation the DF is exempt from? I doubt if H&S mentions body armour, somehow, which means it's a unit failure, ie, the Boss did not poke the Q in his belly button and demand body armour,etc,etc or it's just the usual Irish compromise, do ye want to fire or not??!!

regards
GttC

[dasa29]

At the moment the only h&s we have is safety boots, body armour would be more of a hindrance than a help, cos if the worst happened and there was an accident having body armor won't make a difference in the long run. at presant with the 120mm their is a higher risk of hand injures because the clamps are unforgiveing when being used, and you have to keep in mind not to close your hands around the clamp as you are closeing it or you could lose fingers, always close useing the palm of the hand. in regards to the helmets we don't normally wear them when firing but if we were wearing cefo we would have to wear them.

as far as i know it is 2 Bde Artillery Regt or 2 BAR.

[The real Jack]

okay, can anyone point what H&S legislation the DF is exempt from? I doubt if H&S mentions body armour, somehow, which means it's a unit failure, ie, the Boss did not poke the Q in his belly button and demand body armour,etc,etc or it's just the usual Irish compromise, do ye want to fire or not??!!

regards
GttC

The DF is only exempt in civil emergencies, public order, security or an act of war and on "active service".

http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?20705-Kit-Corner-Swap-or-Sell&p=396443&viewfull=1#post396443

[GoneToTheCanner]

I thought wearing helmets was compulsory when firing heavy weapons? back in the the 80s we had the old British "turtle" helmets when firing mortars and 84s. we had to wear the Rabintex helmet the whole time once it was issue in the DF.

regards
gttC