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    I got another question - who does the OP/spotting work? Do the infanteers get trained to call it in? Or do the gunners embed one of their men with infantry/cav units?

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    Quote Originally Posted by napp View Post
    i got another question - who does the op/spotting work? Do the infanteers get trained to call it in? Or do the gunners embed one of their men with infantry/cav units?
    Forward Observation Observer (FOO).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napp View Post
    I got another question - who does the OP/spotting work? Do the infanteers get trained to call it in? Or do the gunners embed one of their men with infantry/cav units?
    Usually the latter but as a small FOO team rather than just one individual.

    Doctrine would have it that during an advance, the Bty Commander would move with the Bn Commander that he is supporting and advise on all aspects of fire support while 3 FOO teams would be deployed either as anchor OPs or move with the forward elements.

    Of course in practice, our Inf don't regularly call for Arty support so arrangements tend to be somewhat ad-hoc. It also means that the role of Arty in the Irish context is somewhat peripheral as opposed to some other armies where it their guardian angel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    Forward Observation Observer (FOO).
    Is that not meant to be Forward Observation Officer ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Squirrel View Post
    Is that not meant to be Forward Observation Officer ?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
    Usually the latter but as a small FOO team rather than just one individual.

    Doctrine would have it that during an advance, the Bty Commander would move with the Bn Commander that he is supporting and advise on all aspects of fire support while 3 FOO teams would be deployed either as anchor OPs or move with the forward elements.

    Of course in practice, our Inf don't regularly call for Arty support so arrangements tend to be somewhat ad-hoc. It also means that the role of Arty in the Irish context is somewhat peripheral as opposed to some other armies where it their guardian angel.
    Ah great, thanks for the reply. Is there just no push from above to have the inf and arty working in close proximity? I've always wondered why I've never heard too much about DF FOOs and OPs.

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    FOO/FST to be exact
    New doctrine and additional tasks and training.

    (Fire support team. before ye ask.)
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    Just on liveline today that these were spotted over naas this morning?

    Flares?

    In day time?

    could it be part of an aer corps SAR training ex?

    or mortars?

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    chinese lanterns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by morpheus View Post
    Just on liveline today that these were spotted over naas this morning?

    Flares?

    In day time?

    could it be part of an aer corps SAR training ex?

    or mortars?
    Just looks like a few paralums being set of over the Curragh.

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    hmm yeah! could be firing the paralums on the range, thus the apparent synchronisation of them coming out of the clouds!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by morpheus View Post
    The only thing strange I find about the video is that RTE Radio 1 posted it online with Ray Darcy on Today FM on the vehicles radio.

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    quality! free advertisment by the state broadcaster, well done today fm
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
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    Perhaps a unit has donned dark sunglasses to fire table 3 of their ARPs
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    I think its aliens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo20 View Post
    I think its aliens
    me too - its definitely aliens.

    are there any new pyramids in the area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Napp View Post
    I got another question - who does the OP/spotting work? Do the infanteers get trained to call it in? Or do the gunners embed one of their men with infantry/cav units?
    every fully trained Class 1 / 3 Star infantryman is surely trained to call in a fire-mission?
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    Guys, come on... let's focus and stay serious.

    It's the Illuminati, under orders from the Bilderberg Group, signalling the secret UN Army about the beginning of the take over to impose the new world order. Expect your door to be kicked open soon, and World Soldiers taking all of you and your families to concentration camps to be reeducated.

    I shit you not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jungle View Post
    Guys, come on... let's focus and stay serious.

    It's the Illuminati, under orders from the Bilderberg Group, signalling the secret UN Army about the beginning of the take over to impose the new world order. Expect your door to be kicked open soon, and World Soldiers taking all of you and your families to concentration camps to be reeducated.

    I shit you not.
    i see you have pre-ordered Battlefield3 aswell then Jungle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
    every fully trained Class 1 / 3 Star infantryman is surely trained to call in a fire-mission?
    We have recruits, Pte 2*, Pte 3*

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
    every fully trained Class 1 / 3 Star infantryman is surely trained to call in a fire-mission?
    Is that the case anywhere? I start my Gunner OP Ack training in 3 weeks, it's ~30 weeks long (not including 14 weeks basic)... Surely infanteers can't pick it up without doing a course of similar length?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napp View Post
    Is that the case anywhere? I start my Gunner OP Ack training in 3 weeks, it's ~30 weeks long (not including 14 weeks basic)... Surely infanteers can't pick it up without doing a course of similar length?
    Actually, we (Cdn Inf) use the AACFF and we are trained to use it in a couple of days.
    We use both simulator and live fire to confirm the trg.

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    What they look like from above.

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    Cool link Jungle. I've gotten to call in fire on the invertron (OP simulator). Called in my fire on a particular building, ended up precisely flattening a church with a single GMLRS.

    Accident? Nawwww....

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