Does being in the DF go for/against/have no effect on being a gun owner?
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I knew a simple soldier boy.....
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.
In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
And no one spoke of him again.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
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Originally posted by rhino View PostIt makes a small difference when you first apply .you may not need to do a competency course.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by danno View PostBig diff is that you have custody and responsibility for the rifle 24/7 365."Fellow-soldiers of the Irish Republican Army, I have just received a communication from Commandant Pearse calling on us to surrender and you will agree with me that this is the hardest task we have been called upon to perform during this eventful week, but we came into this fight for Irish Independence in obedience to the commands of our higher officers and now in obedience to their wishes we must surrender. I know you would, like myself, prefer to be with our comrades who have already fallen in the fight - we, too, should rather die in this glorious struggle than submit to the enemy." Volunteer Captain Patrick Holahan to 58 of his men at North Brunswick Street, the last group of the Four Courts Garrison to surrender, Sunday 30 April 1916.
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Originally posted by danno View PostBig diff is that you have custody and responsibility for the rifle 24/7 365.
Overseas we have them 24/7 just I case a bad guy shows up.
On other occasions we guard military installations prisons
Are you saying a hobby shooter is on par?
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The real problem, from what I have seen is when it comes to safety, the military person will presume everyone else has the same attitude to firearm safety as they have. Sadly this is not always the case. I met a deerhunter once who wanted me to leave the woods where I was walking my dog as he had nearly shot someone else there previously... while shooting deer, who were uphill from him, but downhill from the crest of the same hill, which was a public forestry track.
Oh and it was still daytime.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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I don't think its fair to paint all civvy shooters or military shooters with the same brush. I've seen unsafe practices from both camps.
Only difference is that the military shooter usually has someone nearby to knock the sh*t out of them when they commit a safety offence. The civvy usually only learns once the harm has been done.
You can train someone on firearm safety all you like. Won't stop them being a fcukhead if it comes naturally to them.
From my experience overconfidence is behind 90% of safety mishaps. As the old saying goes, the unloaded gun shoots loudest.To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain
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Originally posted by na grohmití View PostNot the case. Everyone needs to do a competency course. More so for those with military training. Remember you have the "Firearm" to shoot "Targets". Its no longer a "Weapon" to shoot "people".
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Any decent civvie range will insist that you prove that you have a range safety course done, ie, via your Club, or you won't be allowed near the firing point. I haven't fired a military weapon in 20 years but I'd do a range safety course as normal. I'm in no doubt that it would freshen the memory of weapon handling. Most shooters of ex-mil rifles in Ireland are exers and know how to behave but they all do an RSC as if they were newbies when they join a club and any civvie range behaviour I have seen in the recent past has been quite competent.
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