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  • The Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) operates in a vast geography that ranges from idyllic Pacific islands to Antarctica, and also deals with a broad array of missions. RNZAF chief Air Vice Marshal Andrew Clark says that the missions of the broader New Zealand Defence Force fall into two ...


    Flight Global interview with RNZAF Air Vice-Marshal Andrew Clark about RNZAF platforms and acquisition plans.

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    • NZ Army adds 43 more Bushmaster Protected Mobility Vehicles to replace the 14 year old Pinzgauers.

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      • They are also getting Tactical Golf Carts.
        The New Zealand Army has received the first six MRZR D4 all-terrain vehicles ordered from US manufacturer Polaris Government and Defense under the Ministry of Defence’s...




        These are a vehicle type that have really exploded onto the scene, both in Military and agriculture. They have created a class specially for them in the Dakar Rally also, somewhere between cars and quads.
        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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        • Originally posted by Anzac View Post
          NZ Army adds 43 more Bushmaster Protected Mobility Vehicles to replace the 14 year old Pinzgauers.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/122...s-ageing-fleet
          Surprised they went with the old model and not the newer MR6 variant.
          Does this mean they are likely to offer even more NZLAVs for disposal than the 30 already on offer?

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          • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
            Surprised they went with the old model and not the newer MR6 variant.
            Does this mean they are likely to offer even more NZLAVs for disposal than the 30 already on offer?
            Is there much difference between the 5.5 and the Mk6?
            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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            • Not knowing what is inside the vehicle is a bit difficult to tell. The MR6 has GVA compliant backbone to allow for easier system integration.
              The main visible difference is that the driver and co get their own doors to enter/exit the vehicle.

              https://www.army-technology.com/proj...oured-vehicle/

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              • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                Not knowing what is inside the vehicle is a bit difficult to tell. The MR6 has GVA compliant backbone to allow for easier system integration.
                The main visible difference is that the driver and co get their own doors to enter/exit the vehicle.

                https://www.army-technology.com/proj...oured-vehicle/
                Commonality with the versions already in use by NZ SAS perhaps?
                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                  Surprised they went with the old model and not the newer MR6 variant.
                  Does this mean they are likely to offer even more NZLAVs for disposal than the 30 already on offer?
                  It is the NZ5.5 variant which essentially is the MR6. In the photo op are the older Bushies used by E Squadron. Everyone is pleased to see the back of the Pinzer, which was never wanted, in fact hated. The preference all those years ago was the Bushies - but they bought so many LAV's they had to get the el-cheapo Pinzer. At least they had 60 of them beacuse they were so fragile and unreliable at least there were enough. But the Ministry of Defence around 15 years ago was arrogant and disfunctional and made a pigs breakfast of everything they touched and never listened to what the customer was telling them.

                  No they will stay at 75 LAV's for now with a replacement in around 10 years, likely to be the Boxer is the word around the campfire. Those excess 30 were money down the drain and hardly ever moved.

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                  • Originally posted by Anzac View Post
                    It is the NZ5.5 variant which essentially is the MR6. In the photo op are the older Bushies used by E Squadron. Everyone is pleased to see the back of the Pinzer, which was never wanted, in fact hated. The preference all those years ago was the Bushies - but they bought so many LAV's they had to get the el-cheapo Pinzer. At least they had 60 of them beacuse they were so fragile and unreliable at least there were enough. But the Ministry of Defence around 15 years ago was arrogant and disfunctional and made a pigs breakfast of everything they touched and never listened to what the customer was telling them.

                    No they will stay at 75 LAV's for now with a replacement in around 10 years, likely to be the Boxer is the word around the campfire. Those excess 30 were money down the drain and hardly ever moved.
                    Sounds Familiar. The same MOD who decided you didn't need to replace the Skyhawks or Aermacchis? The same MOD who decided you didn't need to get C130J and a SLEP on the C130H would be better?
                    Sounds very familiar.
                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • Originally posted by Anzac View Post
                      It is the NZ5.5 variant which essentially is the MR6. In the photo op are the older Bushies used by E Squadron. Everyone is pleased to see the back of the Pinzer, which was never wanted, in fact hated. The preference all those years ago was the Bushies - but they bought so many LAV's they had to get the el-cheapo Pinzer. At least they had 60 of them beacuse they were so fragile and unreliable at least there were enough. But the Ministry of Defence around 15 years ago was arrogant and disfunctional and made a pigs breakfast of everything they touched and never listened to what the customer was telling them.

                      No they will stay at 75 LAV's for now with a replacement in around 10 years, likely to be the Boxer is the word around the campfire. Those excess 30 were money down the drain and hardly ever moved.
                      How much are they looking for to get rid of the NZLAS's?

                      It was interesting that Argentina went for new Stryker vehicles rather than snap the NZLAVs especially given their financial situation.

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                      • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                        Sounds Familiar. The same MOD who decided you didn't need to replace the Skyhawks or Aermacchis? The same MOD who decided you didn't need to get C130J and a SLEP on the C130H would be better?
                        Sounds very familiar.
                        But the good news is that it can change. You just have to get Cabinet or at least the ones with power, prepared to get the deadwood at the top removed and a Minister who actually knows or at least cares about Defence, alongside a retiring flag rank officer with 35 years in, parachuted into the key Capability Development role bringing in a fresh team. Worked a treat over here. More stuff has rolled through the base front gates over the last 3 years than since the 1960's.

                        From what I have taken in Simon Coveney might have the moxy to start the ball rolling under his watch. Getting out and doing base visits - getting to know the troops, canvasing their views. That is a good start and as Foreign Minister as well he has status and a certain amount of power that can force change in his departments.

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                        • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                          How much are they looking for to get rid of the NZLAS's?

                          It was interesting that Argentina went for new Stryker vehicles rather than snap the NZLAVs especially given their financial situation.
                          The Columbians didn't want them either. I think they should just give them to Fiji like Aussies gave them 11 Bushies. Better us give them free stuff than the PRC.

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                          • This is what the NZ5.5 Bushie will look like.

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                            • Where is the logic in this? Scrapping 30 perfectly good LAV's and spending $75 on a fleet of vehicles with inferior mobility, firepower and protection. NZ DF white elephant strikes again.

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                              • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                                Where is the logic in this? Scrapping 30 perfectly good LAV's and spending $75 on a fleet of vehicles with inferior mobility, firepower and protection. NZ DF white elephant strikes again.
                                They are not scrapping the LAV's, they are for sale as they do not get used.
                                If anyone wants to make ANY offer I am sure the NZ DoD would bite your arm off.

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