Oh oh.... We are back to one of those IAC v IRCG threads. Lets get back to basics , the costs of the EAS put on the Dail record by the Minister has got to be correct(circa 700k) if there is one thing that Civil Serpents won't do, is put their minister up to mislead the Dail, that is a red card offence for all, particularly in the calm backwater that is the Dept of Defence.
The aforementioned bunch of boys and girls in the Department of Defence do not want the IAC in the EAS business, bottom line is mission creep and the AC become a dedicated service and it will in some way draw on the Defence Budget. The EAS project was set up by the Department grudgingly after 6 months of fighting whilst the people of the west bumped up and down in ambulances on the road to Galway etc . Read between the lines in the 135 prang report, EAS was a daytime service to use pre approved LZs only ( in order to skew the figures and keep them low) , the AC and HSE want to prove the requirement for a service and expanded the number of LZs out to get the numbers up.
Now we have two services in operation , an AC service daytime only EAS and CG HEMs assets on call, we are paying for both, approx a mill a week for the CG and the 700 k in the 12 months( ish for the AC) . Both services are necessary and We the taxpayer are getting more VFM for our tax dollars.
The HSE and the Dept of Health don't give a shxxt who drives the Helis as long as they have a fig leaf to close more hospitals with more heli support, the Dept of Defence don't want the AC doing it, coz they don't like us doing stuff that costs money and is grown up ( that applies to any and all military activity BTW), the IRCG and Dept of Trans are delighted to prove more VFM and the AC are delighted to have a job that gets them flying in a practical way that is giving experience for their crews,maybe potential medevac overseas if we wadi the white paper ban.
MB just because the HSE advised on the fit out doesn't endorse the service, the medics advised me what to put in my first aid kit , doesn't make it the DMC approved kit. Can we get over all this nonsense and admit ( grudgingly ) that both services are complementary and necessary and lose the conspiracy theories that the HSE are pro one service provider over another, they really don't care about the colour of the chopper, why would they care as long as the service is VFM to them and works ...great, good news all round for the HSE.
The aforementioned bunch of boys and girls in the Department of Defence do not want the IAC in the EAS business, bottom line is mission creep and the AC become a dedicated service and it will in some way draw on the Defence Budget. The EAS project was set up by the Department grudgingly after 6 months of fighting whilst the people of the west bumped up and down in ambulances on the road to Galway etc . Read between the lines in the 135 prang report, EAS was a daytime service to use pre approved LZs only ( in order to skew the figures and keep them low) , the AC and HSE want to prove the requirement for a service and expanded the number of LZs out to get the numbers up.
Now we have two services in operation , an AC service daytime only EAS and CG HEMs assets on call, we are paying for both, approx a mill a week for the CG and the 700 k in the 12 months( ish for the AC) . Both services are necessary and We the taxpayer are getting more VFM for our tax dollars.
The HSE and the Dept of Health don't give a shxxt who drives the Helis as long as they have a fig leaf to close more hospitals with more heli support, the Dept of Defence don't want the AC doing it, coz they don't like us doing stuff that costs money and is grown up ( that applies to any and all military activity BTW), the IRCG and Dept of Trans are delighted to prove more VFM and the AC are delighted to have a job that gets them flying in a practical way that is giving experience for their crews,maybe potential medevac overseas if we wadi the white paper ban.
MB just because the HSE advised on the fit out doesn't endorse the service, the medics advised me what to put in my first aid kit , doesn't make it the DMC approved kit. Can we get over all this nonsense and admit ( grudgingly ) that both services are complementary and necessary and lose the conspiracy theories that the HSE are pro one service provider over another, they really don't care about the colour of the chopper, why would they care as long as the service is VFM to them and works ...great, good news all round for the HSE.
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