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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostThe behaviour of union members destroyed Verolme; I knew one and he described in detail to me how it was done. Same for Fords and dozens of other Irish companies and to this day, some companies are clinging on by their fingertips because of stupid union demands.
This kind of carry on did permanent damage to workplace relations in Ireland.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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A number of RTE reports from 1988.
Air Corps Helicopter Training
Dublin Firemen Begin Strike
Book On Army Badges
POA Criticises Army Actions
Aer Corps (sic) Pilots Leave For More Lucrative Jobs
Ban On Air Corps Resignations
Minister Visits Navy Patrol Vessels
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I remember the Portlaoise incident well. The gunner in question didn't have to buy pints for quite a while after, apparently. Unfortunately the intended recipient of those gifts from FN FAL of Herstal, was released by a court some time later.
The british tabloids had a good ole laugh at paddy releasing, arresting and re-releasing an alleged terrorist and had many keystone cops like cartoons to explain this situation to their readership. At the end of the day, the fault usually lay in the British Extradition warrants, but this was just one of many extradition attempts that went wrong due to the local DJ making a flawed presumption on legislation with which he would have had little dealings . It set a nasty precedent where a person arrested for a terrorist offence had to be released after arrest outside a garda station, to be re-arrested for the purpose of being extradited, once the warrant was approved. At the end of the day a District justice should never have been given the responsibility to make this decision. The House of commons were baying for blood, but their AG was stoic in his support for the Irish process and authorities.
Later legistlation closed this loophole, and the extradition process seemed to go much smoother. Sadly new rules mean we never got to find out exactly what Mr McVeigh got up to before or after his short lesson on the sound an incoming 7.62x51mm NATO makes. I'm sure he saw the error of his ways and went off to live a life as a law abiding citizen somewhere...For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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The report on the Steyr mentions the rifle was acquired through a subsidiary.
That subsidiary was called Steyr-Barter.
The countertrade was valued at over £1 million which would not have covered the cost of all the rifles, so the butter mountain didn't pay for them all.
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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostThe behaviour of union members destroyed Verolme; I knew one and he described in detail to me how it was done. Same for Fords and dozens of other Irish companies and to this day, some companies are clinging on by their fingertips because of stupid union demands.
Same with SR technics in Dublin Lads who worked the landing gear would not accept the latest agreements.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostI remember the Portlaoise incident well. The gunner in question didn't have to buy pints for quite a while after, apparently. Unfortunately the intended recipient of those gifts from FN FAL of Herstal, was released by a court some time later.
The british tabloids had a good ole laugh at paddy releasing, arresting and re-releasing an alleged terrorist and had many keystone cops like cartoons to explain this situation to their readership. At the end of the day, the fault usually lay in the British Extradition warrants, but this was just one of many extradition attempts that went wrong due to the local DJ making a flawed presumption on legislation with which he would have had little dealings . It set a nasty precedent where a person arrested for a terrorist offence had to be released after arrest outside a garda station, to be re-arrested for the purpose of being extradited, once the warrant was approved. At the end of the day a District justice should never have been given the responsibility to make this decision. The House of commons were baying for blood, but their AG was stoic in his support for the Irish process and authorities.
Later legistlation closed this loophole, and the extradition process seemed to go much smoother. Sadly new rules mean we never got to find out exactly what Mr McVeigh got up to before or after his short lesson on the sound an incoming 7.62x51mm NATO makes. I'm sure he saw the error of his ways and went off to live a life as a law abiding citizen somewhere...
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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostThe behaviour of union members destroyed Verolme; I knew one and he described in detail to me how it was done. Same for Fords and dozens of other Irish companies and to this day, some companies are clinging on by their fingertips because of stupid union demands.
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Originally posted by Rhodes View PostThe report on the Steyr mentions the rifle was acquired through a subsidiary.
That subsidiary was called Steyr-Barter.
The countertrade was valued at over £1 million which would not have covered the cost of all the rifles, so the butter mountain didn't pay for them all.
Very often the offset just pushes up the price as the other company/nation has to get rid of something they do not want in the first place. But make politicians look good, "we are buy xxxx but they will be taking zzzz from us".
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostWhat was the difference in the cost of the rifles with and without the offset deal?
Very often the offset just pushes up the price as the other company/nation has to get rid of something they do not want in the first place. But make politicians look good, "we are buy xxxx but they will be taking zzzz from us".
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