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A lot of the Don's involvement in MRT assistance came from having the primary artillery range in rough country. It became obvious that some casualties of civil and military accidents needed air transfer to hospital, rather than depend on road transport. One of my Apprentice Class was airlifted off a training exercise in the Glen by an Alouette III. We thought he'd be roaded out to Naas but it turned out to be easier to pick him off the hillside and drop him at the door, so to speak. We thought he'd get a shoeing from the Boss but Heli Flight were delighted to do the job. So, the Don may as well stay in practise at MRT, because after that, there's only GoHs (smelly oul fellas, live) and body searches (smelly oul fellas, dead).
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GttC
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I also see the huge benefits moving to SNN/DUB would provide but I think the time for such a move has passed. The financial benefits of selling Baldonnel 6/7 years ago would have far outweighed it's limited strategic value. Not anymore though.
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There is a limited range of options to chose from. There was talk of the IAA cutting the 24 hour status of Cork last year.
Also civilians can strike, the AC provides local fire cover in Baldonnel, they man the military ATC positions in Dublin, etc
Would the IAA be willing to give MOAs close to, eg Shannon, where they could effect civilian traffic?
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Originally posted by DeV View PostThere is a limited range of options to chose from. There was talk of the IAA cutting the 24 hour status of Cork last year.
Also civilians can strike, the AC provides local fire cover in Baldonnel, they man the military ATC positions in Dublin, etc
Would the IAA be willing to give MOAs close to, eg Shannon, where they could effect civilian traffic?
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2007/en/si/0806.html
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
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We are getting into interesting territory here with shared services on an airfield, the consolidation of Brit era Army Barracks location has generally worked. However what about the reports in one of today's papers ( I heard a review on the wireless, think it was Business Post ) about the Army ( I assume AC) standing by to replace fire crews in Dublin in the event of a nationwide Airport Fire Service strike, Shannon and Cork to close but Dublin to stay open on limited DF support.
This is where I diverge from TP's view on such shared services. Are we to leave the air element of the military prone to be shut down by an ATC or fire strike from civvies( or insist on costly no strike contracts). Would we outsource other vital military support services to strike prone civvies. Whilst we are at the sabre rattling stage of industrial relations in the airports , could that effect other vital services that operate out of these strategic airports , air ambo , SAR etc or can they operate without crash rescue. I for one prefer incompetent public servants that can't go on strike running these kind of services especially if they can adversely affect military capabilities.
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Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostEven if the civilians strike, and the AC provided atc and and Fire, the FAA/CAA/IAA would not let a single passenger disembark.
If AC was to move to say Shannon, they would have to rely on civvy ATC & CRS that could go on strike.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostCorrect but AC ops could still continue
If AC was to move to say Shannon, they would have to rely on civvy ATC & CRS that could go on strike.
Very little in the way of routine ops can take place in the absence of civil ATC. We have been over this before if I recall correctly.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
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Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostWhat AC ops?
Very little in the way of routine ops can take place in the absence of civil ATC. We have been over this before if I recall correctly.Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.
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Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostWill your ground based navaids be operating? How can you be sure if those who maintain are not working? (radio beacons etc).Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.
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