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    Question New medal ??

    has anyone heared about a new medal coming on issue next yr to the df ?
    it is apparently for the 100 year anniversary of the irish volunteers?

    or is it the rumour machine again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser View Post
    has anyone heared about a new medal coming on issue next yr to the df ?
    it is apparently for the 100 year anniversary of the irish volunteers?

    or is it the rumour machine again?
    Someone made a proposal to the Government that a commemoration medal be issued to mark the centenary of the Irish Volunteers but it hasn't been confirmed if they will do it or not.
    Seems a bit silly to me. Medals should be earned and not handed out for anniversaries.

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    I heard that from a few people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    Someone made a proposal to the Government that a commemoration medal be issued to mark the centenary of the Irish Volunteers but it hasn't been confirmed if they will do it or not.
    Seems a bit silly to me. Medals should be earned and not handed out for anniversaries.

    i agree they should be earned..

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    Heard the same form the lads in the clothing stores.They deal with the DF clothing procurement guys who buy the medals.Supposed to be going ahead but who knows.Would be nice to mark our centenary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    Medals should be earned and not handed out for anniversaries.
    +1

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    will it be a case of time will tell or does any no the score??

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    I hear it will only be issued to the PDF which is ironic really.

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    In the time i have been in the army I have personally witnessed and heard stories of acts and deeds, carried out by Irish defence forces personnel going above and beyond the call of duty at home and overseas that warranted official recognition and acknowledgement, but none was forthcoming in most instances. True bravery and fortitude displayed when others would have crumbled.

    On the flipside I've seen persons awarded DSM's and made honorary member of the legion of whatever all for simply doing the job which they were already being quite handsomely paid to do.

    And now somebody with feck all else to do wants to hand out medals for nothing? The occasion should be marked and celebrated most definitely, but a medal for nothing? Stupid!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    I hear it will only be issued to the PDF which is ironic really.
    Very small minded and thoughtless of the contribution of serving RDF members who volunteer to parade and train without being paid for most of their efforts.
    Cry "havoc!", and let slip the dogs of war!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedollar View Post
    Very small minded and thoughtless of the contribution of serving RDF members who volunteer to parade and train without being paid for most of their efforts.
    RDF already have a service medal for such.
    Last edited by Rhodes; 28th April 2012 at 20:44. Reason: add quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    RDF already have a service medal for such.
    Meant if they do go ahead with striking a commemorative medal only for PDF.

    But I agree with you, medals should be earned not handed out.
    Cry "havoc!", and let slip the dogs of war!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedollar View Post
    Meant if they do go ahead with striking a commemorative medal only for PDF.

    But I agree with you, medals should be earned not handed out.
    The striking of medals for anniversaries (for mass issue) is quite prevalent in the armed forces of monarchies, I expect RGJ will be due one for the queens jubilee.

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    Where did the suggestion to strike this medal come from? Was it DFHQ or did one of the Representative Associations request it?
    Cry "havoc!", and let slip the dogs of war!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tango_Charlie View Post
    In the time i have been in the army I have personally witnessed and heard stories of acts and deeds, carried out by Irish defence forces personnel going above and beyond the call of duty at home and overseas that warranted official recognition and acknowledgement, but none was forthcoming in most instances. True bravery and fortitude displayed when others would have crumbled.

    On the flipside I've seen persons awarded DSM's and made honorary member of the legion of whatever all for simply doing the job which they were already being quite handsomely paid to do.

    And now somebody with feck all else to do wants to hand out medals for nothing? The occasion should be marked and celebrated most definitely, but a medal for nothing? Stupid!!!!
    I know a guy who was given a medal for gallantry from another nation for his actions overseas, wasn't even given a good report from the irish army for it. Naturally because its a medal from another countries armed forces he's not allowed to wear it.

    Ridiculous. If it was a general who was given it you could guarantee he'd be wearing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    I hear it will only be issued to the PDF which is ironic really.

    were did you hear that?? and why ironic???

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    Several Members of the Defenc Forces have been awarded the NATO Meritorious Service Medal MSM in the last two years i Officer and 2 NCO's.
    The dilemma for the Irsih Defence Forces is that the BMC (MMG) and the BSD (DSM) are the only two awards that can be issued for acts of heroism,Meritorious service,for leaders ship or for highlighting the profile of the Defence Forces in other ways.
    Most Armies all over the world have several awards that can cover all aspects of recognising acts therefore allowing the award of such medals.
    The fact that the Defence Force have only two such awards leave the bar too high and thus members of the DF are not put forward for awards. The New Zeland Defence Forces is a good example and it is basically the same size as our own DF.
    I relation to the topic in this section most countries record silver,golden,diamond Jubilee medals as did the Garda in this country in 1972 (Jubilee Medal) and in 2000 (Millennium Medal) ,

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    Whats the worst dilemma,getting an undeserved merit medal or everybody getting one regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser View Post
    were did you hear that?? and why ironic???
    Well, the Volunteers were part-time soldiers who served in a voluntary basis, with wildly varying standards of training and equipment, and with often no more than token units in rural locations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser View Post
    were did you hear that?? and why ironic???
    Probably ironic in the fact that the Irish Volunteers were a part-time force who suffered from equipment shortages, lack of uniforms. The Irish Volunteers and sucessors fought a full time force and didn't become full time itself until 1921.

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    danno;369217]Whats the worst dilemma,getting an undeserved merit medal or everybody getting one regardless.[/QUOTE]

    To my mind the situation can only create huge embarrassment. Let me give you an example.
    If you had a Millenium Medal say and then a Jubilee Medal or whatever, and, being perfectly entitled to them but if you had no medals for operational service in a combat zone during that time period would you not feel a little sheepish on parade. This is a serious question,

    Long Service, Good Conduct etc. by all means but let us not devalue the concept.

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    does anyone on this board think the British devalue the awarding of medals look up their site before you answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    RDF already have a service medal for such.
    Errr, the PDF also have a Service Medal....
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    i wonder how many they will make? if they are making them!!
    how many troops in the rdf would be able to get one??
    also where does it stop would there be one for the centenary of 1916

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser View Post
    i wonder how many they will make? if they are making them!!
    how many troops in the rdf would be able to get one??
    also where does it stop would there be one for the centenary of 1916
    And you also have the anniversary of start of the War of Independance, the establishment of the Free State, the establishment National Army?

    Is there really any point in medals commemorating an anniversary of an historical event?
    Cry "havoc!", and let slip the dogs of war!

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