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    • Originally posted by apod View Post
      New irish Pattern for second contingent AFAIK. Cross between current Irish Woodland and Irish desert patterns
      I know you touched on this sometime before......new general issue pattern or ARW specific? And intended as a multi terrain pattern or specifically replacing arid / desert pattern?
      An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

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      • Originally posted by X-RayOne View Post
        I know you touched on this sometime before......new general issue pattern or ARW specific? And intended as a multi terrain pattern or specifically replacing arid / desert pattern?
        ARW Specific at the moment but I was told a few years ago by a couple of different sources that we would be changing our pattern. Ask yourself this though. Why change to a solid colour body armour/load carriage system and a brown boot intended for use in multiple climates. Future-proofing methinks
        "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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        • Thirteen soldiers die in the incident during an operation against jihadists in a border area.


          Thirteen French soldiers have been killed in a helicopter crash during an operation against jihadists in Mali, the French president's office said.

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          • Mid air between Cougar transport heli and tiger attack heli.
            Tragic and most unfortunate.
            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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            • A new French-led multinational special forces task force reached its initial operating capability (IOC) on 15 July in Mali, the French Ministry of Armed Forces announced...


              New SF structure in Mali. No mention of Germany/Ireland, so presumably they will continue to operate separately.

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              • Originally posted by Tempest View Post
                https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n..._source=Eloqua

                New SF structure in Mali. No mention of Germany/Ireland, so presumably they will continue to operate separately.
                There are different missions in Mali, this is the French Operation ‘Barkhane’. It is not part EUTM Mali but a French combat operation which dates back to 2014

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                • Irish SOF in Mali are part of the UN MINUSMA mission not EUTM.

                  Our training teams are part of EUTM Mali.
                  "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                  • Originally posted by Tempest View Post
                    https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n..._source=Eloqua

                    New SF structure in Mali. No mention of Germany/Ireland, so presumably they will continue to operate separately.
                    Has that issue with German SF affected their deployments?

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                    • Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
                      Has that issue with German SF affected their deployments?
                      The KSK has around 1,400 troops.

                      The changes that are going on will have some transferred to other units, a transfer of who does the training and basically bring the units closer to the rest of the army in term of oversight and control. It has been said that it should not affect the ability to perform missions.

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                      • Reported Coup underway

                        France and regional bloc Ecowas have condemned the mutiny that began with gunfire early on Tuesday.

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                        • So now the President has resigned and dissolved the government.
                          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53830348

                          The new strong man is Mahmoud Dicko:
                          https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-53691977

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                          • This was on Euronews just now as well, caught the tail end of it, saying that there is a known General and some other 'personalities' in the background...and showing obligatory line up of young and old officers sitting at a small conference table making statements.

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                            • Good luck and safe home to them:



                              https://www.gov.uk/government/news/3...eeping-mission

                              300 UK troops have arrived in Mali as part of the UN’s peacekeeping mission, primarily drawn from the Light Dragoons alongside the Royal Anglian Regiment and supported by specialist trades from across the Armed Forces.

                              The UK Task Force will provide a highly specialised reconnaissance capability, conducting patrols to gather intelligence and engage with the local population to help the UN respond to threats from violent extremism, and weak governance.

                              The UN Mission in Mali is made up of over 14,000 peacekeepers from 56 different countries and works to support peace efforts, encourage security sector reform, protect civilians and promote human rights.

                              Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said:
                              As a permanent member of the UN Security Council this deployment is a demonstration of our firm commitment to peacekeeping and the importance we place on improving security in the Sahel by protecting local communities.

                              Our land forces are the best in the world, and we are one of a small handful of nations able to provide this specialist capability in a challenging environment which will help prevent the spread of conflict across the region.

                              The main body of troops arrived on 2nd December, and all UK personnel will have arrived by 8th December to set up the UK Headquarters. They have flown from RAF Brize Norton by A400M aircraft to the UN camp in Gao. They will be based in the newly formed Camp Bagnold, which is named after Brigadier Ralph Alger Bagnold, the desert explorer and first Commanding Officer of the British Army’s “Long Range Desert Group.”

                              Lieutenant Colonel Tom Robinson, Commanding Officer of the Light Dragoons, said:
                              The 300 strong Light Dragoon task group is joining over 14,000 peacekeepers from 56 Nations as part of this challenging UN mission in Mali to help protect the people from violence and support political dialogue. We bring years of experience on operations, first class equipment and exceptional people.

                              We’ve trained hard for the last year to make sure that we are ready for this challenging mission. We’re proud to be the first British soldiers to join in this team effort to help combat instability in the Sahel.

                              The Sahel is one of Africa’s poorest and most fragile regions. It is marked by chronic poverty, instability, high levels of gender inequality, and is highly vulnerable to the effects of climate change. Terrorist violence and conflict is sharply on the rise. It is in all our interests that we work together to protect civilians and help build a safer, healthier and more prosperous future for the region.

                              Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said:
                              This new deployment of 300 British troops to the UN Peacekeeping Mission in Mali is part of our ongoing work in the Sahel region to build stability, improve the humanitarian response and help protect innocent civilians from violence.

                              British troops will reinforce our development and diplomatic work, to maximise our impact on the ground.

                              The UK is one of the largest humanitarian donors to the Sahel - in 2020 the UK gave £14.65m in humanitarian aid to Mali and is currently in the process of increasing the size of the UK embassy to reinforce our diplomatic strength in the country.

                              Alongside this, the MoD currently has 3 Chinook helicopters and 100 personnel in a logistics role supporting the French-led Counter-Terrorist mission, Operation BARKHANE. This is entirely separate from the UN mission, but they will be operating in the same region.
                              'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                              'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                              Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                              He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                              http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                              • Interesting aside on BBC Radio 4 news, although they have suitable patrol vehicles and UAV’s, they have no integrated helicopter support...
                                'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                                'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                                Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                                He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                                http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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