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  • Compared to the Atlantic yes. The worst the med can do around Malta is like an average summer swell in these waters. Not flat calm by any account, but nowhere near the extremes we get.
    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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    • Lads, whats the delay in Aoife going to the med?
      She was commissioned on the 28th of June as Maltese P62, and reports were that she was heading south imminently, nearly two months later seems a long time more than imminently.

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      • Originally posted by Herald View Post
        Lads, whats the delay in Aoife going to the med?
        She was commissioned on the 28th of June as Maltese P62, and reports were that she was heading south imminently, nearly two months later seems a long time more than imminently.
        Reports were media reports written by people with a level of experience that extends to buying a second-hand car, reality is somewhat different. P62 just undocked at CDL today with another 7-10 days work still remaining alongside. Follow that with crew work-up and then transit back home. The reality of re-commissioning a 36 year old vessel, albeit in very good nick, is that you want a yard that knows the vessel inside out to do the initial works in a location close to the technical knowledge base of the previous owners.
        I can guarantee that she's eagerly awaited and can't get into active service soon enough. Cutting corners, however, gets nobody nowhere.

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        • Well you know what she's like.. Came out of drydock today.
          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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          • Originally posted by Medsailor View Post
            Reports were media reports written by people with a level of experience that extends to buying a second-hand car, reality is somewhat different. P62 just undocked at CDL today with another 7-10 days work still remaining alongside. Follow that with crew work-up and then transit back home. The reality of re-commissioning a 36 year old vessel, albeit in very good nick, is that you want a yard that knows the vessel inside out to do the initial works in a location close to the technical knowledge base of the previous owners.
            I can guarantee that she's eagerly awaited and can't get into active service soon enough. Cutting corners, however, gets nobody nowhere.
            I take your point, however the whole premise of the hand over was to assist with the refugee crisis in the med, and at this stage with the summer coming to an end, Its looking unlikely that she'll be there on time to do that.

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            • Originally posted by Herald View Post
              I take your point, however the whole premise of the hand over was to assist with the refugee crisis in the med, and at this stage with the summer coming to an end, Its looking unlikely that she'll be there on time to do that.
              Looks like you don't get his point at all, in any way.
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • Originally posted by Herald View Post
                I take your point, however the whole premise of the hand over was to assist with the refugee crisis in the med, and at this stage with the summer coming to an end, Its looking unlikely that she'll be there on time to do that.
                Again, that premise was the media's interpretation. The actual premise is to enhance capability for 4-5 years until a new OPV comes on line. I admit, the migration issues in the CENTMED are worse this year than in the past but the problem isn't going anywhere anytime soon. What has been a wake-up call for Europe in 2015 has been SNAFU for us since 2002/2003. And what used to have a 'season' between say April and October is now all year round. That's not to say that the Irish (and others') response this year hasn't been anything short of outstanding. You can rightly be extremely proud of your Naval Service and the job they have done and that is praise coming from people who have undertaken more of these rescues than we care to recall and have paid the price in the impact on our personnel. However, we have to deal with the problem next year and probably the year after that so everything we are doing is with a view to consolidating for the medium to long term.

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                • The weather in the med can get fairly bad.

                  Eithne was clattered by a beam on force 7 on the way down of Algiers.

                  But no where near winter North Atlantic.

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                  • Originally posted by Herald View Post
                    I take your point, however the whole premise of the hand over was to assist with the refugee crisis in the med, and at this stage with the summer coming to an end, Its looking unlikely that she'll be there on time to do that.
                    There's always next year!
                    Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                    • Its not like the refugees will all of a sudden, stop coming.
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                      • Picture from Facebook of Maltese Maritime Squadron P62.

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                        • Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
                          Looks like you don't get his point at all, in any way.
                          How very enlightening.

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                          • Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
                            Looks like you don't get his point at all, in any way.
                            I think I understand where your coming from but then I've known you as long as a murder sentence, do you mind explaining it to the unfortunates?
                            "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
                            Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
                            Illegitimi non carborundum

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                            • Medsailor clearly explains why Aoife is not yet ready to enter service in the med. Herald answers by saying he gets his point but wonders why isn't Aoife ready to enter service in the med.

                              While you are at it, any chance you could get rid of Medsailor's premoderation before he returns to Malta for good? It is clear from his posts he is genuine (unlike other bluffers on this site, who got past premoderation by posting lots of AIS updates).
                              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                              • Good luck with P62. The important thing is to know your ship's systems, especially how to respond to alarms and potential shutdowns. Starting at the bow it is routine to be familiar with operating the docking and anchoring equipment and ensure anchor cables are measured and clenched. Do the same checks with boats and cranes. Get familiar with Compass, Radar, and Communication systems, including responding to Gyro alarms. Ensure knowledge of pumping, sewage, fuel handling, FW and ballasting systems is not just in one head. Try and make out a Sea Trials check list. Ensure reasonable Voyage spares. One or two Irish technical NCO's secunded for the voyage would be a confidence booster. Lastly somebody must take the authority to say " We are good to Go".

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