iveco ambulance

[hptmurphy]

Are the taillifts not to do with back injuries for paramedics

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All stretcher cases ,wheel chairs use the tail lifts , dead lifts are outlawed by health and safety.

Bear in mind that if your talking about a 4x4 ambulance, so the chances are the casualty had been carried at least a few hundred metres on a lightweight stretcher across broken ground( not the trolley type stretcher in an ambulance).

Casualty will still have to be lifted either from the ground or arms length into the ambulance, given the reported height, thats not going to be an easy job.

The fact that someone may have a spinal injury only means the likes of their battle vest cannot be removed increasing the weight of a casualty to lift into the back of the vehicle.

But the patient still has to be taken out, most likely no longer on this lightweight stretcher, possibly connected to numerous life preserving equipment.

Correct and right.

Given the crew of an ambulance is two persons, when you arrive at the hospital where the casualty is to be treated, most serious cases go directly to an ED.. getting the casualty poses a greater risk as patient lifting hoists are not designed to reach into vehicles.

Walking wounded only I fear.

[sofa]

Had a look in the back of a brand new German Army Duro 111 field Ambulance in 2009, and it did not have a stretcher lift. are we getting too civi soft.??

[danno]

Wonder what our nearest neighbours do,perhaps RGJ might do the honours?

[DeV]

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All stretcher cases ,wheel chairs use the tail lifts , dead lifts are outlawed by health and safety.



Casualty will still have to be lifted either from the ground or arms length into the ambulance, given the reported height, thats not going to be an easy job.

The fact that someone may have a spinal injury only means the likes of their battle vest cannot be removed increasing the weight of a casualty to lift into the back of the vehicle.



Correct and right.

Given the crew of an ambulance is two persons, when you arrive at the hospital where the casualty is to be treated, most serious cases go directly to an ED.. getting the casualty poses a greater risk as patient lifting hoists are not designed to reach into vehicles.

Walking wounded only I fear.

There are exceptions to the HSWA for the DF for operations and training for ops (these wouldn't be used for HSE taskings).

[Goldie fish]

Already covered.

some very good low milage off-road capable ambulances here for just £29500 (+VAT):

http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/related/42738/Steyr_Puch.htm

i've been in these before and they seemed pretty good.

i'd be tempted to buy one to convert as a camper - access all areas.

http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?18889-New-Ambulances

[DeV]

Already covered.



http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com...New-Ambulances

That folds into the back doors of the vehicle and appears to be a ramp not a lift (look at the hinges on the right, doesn't look as if it will fold down any further).

There are some better pics of that vehicle - http://www.military-salesuk.org.uk/d...Steyr_Puch.htm

[danno]

With its hems experience the AC helis can be deployed to extract casualties from inaccessible spots.

[hptmurphy]

With its hems experience the AC helis can be deployed to extract casualties from inaccessible spots

So why do we need specialist ambulances

There are exceptions to the HSWA for the DF for operations and training for ops

I'm sure the judge in the high court making the award to the guy who fcuks up his back will bear that in mind!

[mercurydoc]

We recently serviced a Nissan Pathfinder Ambulance at work. When I asked the driver how would he work in that he said its only a load and go job, transfer to HSE ambulance on the nearest access point. It was either Order or malta or civil Defence but il check it out

[mercurydoc]

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[REX]

We recently serviced a Nissan Pathfinder Ambulance at work. When I asked the driver how would he work in that he said its only a load and go job, transfer to HSE ambulance on the nearest access point. It was either Order or malta or civil Defence but il check it out

As I previously stated this is exactly what the procedure is for the DF 4x4 ambulances

[X-RayOne]

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what an utter waste of time as an ambulance. with the head space and side lockers you can only carry a trolley patient lying flat. can't sit up a conscious patient. if they are lying on a spinal board (turning board & patient to clear airway, etc.), cardiac arrest, multi-trauma with injuries needing treatment in transit you can't do anything due to no access to patient. useless!!

would be better as a first / off road response non transporting vehicle. or leave seats for walking wounded only.

[mercurydoc]

It was designed by an Advanced Paramedic apparently. if he's happy with it! I hope im never in need of it! Im sure its cheaper than the DF truck thing which is the same thing bar space?

[Liachta Cultaca]

As I previously stated this is exactly what the procedure is for the DF 4x4 ambulances

Not true

[Liachta Cultaca]

what an utter waste of time as an ambulance. with the head space and side lockers you can only carry a trolley patient lying flat. can't sit up a conscious patient. if they are lying on a spinal board (turning board & patient to clear airway, etc.), cardiac arrest, multi-trauma with injuries needing treatment in transit you can't do anything due to no access to patient. useless!!

would be better as a first / off road response non transporting vehicle. or leave seats for walking wounded only.

These vehicles that are used by the order of Malta are 4x4 and are used around the country race courses to get the injured person a small distance ..they were never design to transport directly to hospital.

These vehicle would have been designed with the aid of the Medical Director of the Irish Horse Racing Association