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  • #61
    Not forgetting that sometimes the bad guys will also be wearing suicide vests

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
      Some ARW took part in the International Special Operations Forces demo in Florida during the week.

      If an exercise like that happened in Dublin, the Journal.ie website would crash, Clare Daly would have an aneurysm and the Shinners would explode in a fit of whataboutary rage.

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      • #63
        Who is the lunatic civi at the 6:50-7:00 mark blasting away on the boat machine gun

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        • #64
          there's a civvy taken clip on the www. where the black hawk that drops the swimmers at the start of the clip is shown from a different angle. Tail enters the water during the nose up flair out.....could have ended really badly!

          luckily not...but can't seem to find again...my bad.

          And a quick clip of Irish DPM during the long version...i'm sure there'll be plenty of interweb discussion as to who they were.
          An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

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          • #65
            Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
            Just reading something on this recently, not specific to the ARW but around the weapons in use by SF in general. The view being that while 9mm weapons are ideal for room clearance and relatively close range work, they lack the stopping power of a rifle round and while multiple hits can be achieved with SMGs, weapons like the HK 416 can achieve greater accuracy and stopping power. Bearing in mind the fanatacism of the modern day terrorists and the need for first shot kill it would seem specialist rifle type weapons are the prefered option in many camps. Some recent photos from a book I'm reading highlight the Diamaco weapons systems as the prefered option in Afghanistan for operators such as the SBS.

            So to sum up, yup, I reckon you could be right about a shift in weapon choices.
            I heard an anecdote from an ex navy seal on a podcast recently where he discussed how much he hated 9mm because one time he shot a guy in a room 3 times center mass and he still managed to stand up, run to the other room and grab a rifle before succumbing to his wounds.
            To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Bravo20 View Post
              Who is the lunatic civi at the 6:50-7:00 mark blasting away on the boat machine gun
              The Mayor of Tampa.He takes part as the "hostage" every year.
              "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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              • #67
                The ARW rub shoulders with a lot of foreign SOF so it was only a matter of time before they followed suit, it simplifies logs and training also, only one weapon to train on and maintain for green & black roles. HK make a shorty 416 the C model which was originally made for a UK requirement - it's the Teutonic equivalent to the US mils Mk 18. I dunno if it was actually bought by anyone, that barrel length might have been a mare with the gas system. A HK416C/MK18 with a suppressor is the same length as your bog standard mil M4. In time they might have the budget for both lengths.
                Apod we had a debate about the relevance of MP5s a while ago and I predicted exactly what you're talking about! Only question is what replaced the short HK53(?)s used for the CP stuff that were probably clapped out.
                Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

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                • #68
                  Pistol caibres: I can give you three stories from two acquaintances which happened in the last six months.
                  Number one is stuck in city traffic, notices two fishy guys eying him. They split up, then he sees one walking towards his car. Checking all around he spots the other in the wing mirror, creeping up with a gun out. He opens fire on him, guy goes down. Then gets up, runs, hits a lamppost. Gets up and falls twice more before disappearing into a building.
                  Same guy, a month later walking on the street outside his house when he clocks another furtive approacher. This guy pulls a gun but mate is ready, draws and puts three into centre of mass at a range of five metres. Mugger gets up and runs, disappearing into a cemetery.
                  Second guy is saying goodbye to house guests. Typically Indian fashion, goodbye takes longer than the visit and involves lots of talk outside the house... Car drives by slowly, six men inside. It turns and comes back, six armed men get out, by which time he has drawn and opens fire. Hits at least two, they all get back in the car and speed off... Still having had time to grab an old auntie's handbag.
                  In all cases, confirmed hits with 9mm or .40, lots of blood... And no bodies, at least at the scenes.
                  High velocity is the way to go.
                  Last edited by expat01; 31 May 2016, 09:25.

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                  • #69
                    1 min 5 seconds into the video = ARW
                    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
                    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by morpheus View Post
                      1 min 5 seconds into the video = ARW
                      he seems to be firing rather aimlessly

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by restless View Post
                        he seems to be firing rather aimlessly
                        blanks....

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Craghopper View Post
                          blanks....
                          i know, but at least pretend to be aiming at something!

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                          • #73
                            Interestingly, the Washington Post article on this display is chock-full of comments about how this was treason- allowing foreign soldiers to operate on US soil- and the death of the republic as the US army should never been seen on the streets and should be of killing foreigners. In fact the whole thing was an exercise in preparing US citizens for martial law. Some even opined that if decent ordinary citizens, unaware of the exercise, had started shooting everyone in a foreign uniform, it would have been job well done. And we think we have problems!

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                            • #74
                              "STUTTGART, Germany - Special Operations Command Europe hosted the 2nd Annual International Jump Week, here, July 25-29.

                              Sixty-seven foreign jumpers from Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Germany, Holland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, and the United Kingdom joined forces with U.S. military members to perform high-altitude, low-opening and static line jumps from MC-130J aircraft from 352nd Special Operations Wing and CH-47 Chinook helicopters from 1st Battalion, 214th Aviation Regiment on Malmsheim drop zone.

                              More than 500 jumps were conducted by the paratroopers during the week.

                              International jump week is an opportunity for airborne service members from NATO and partner nations to conduct joint operation training and ready our joint crisis response capabilities, stated Maj. Benjamin Terwillinger, special operations headquarters commandant, Special Operations Command Europe.

                              Seven of the nine countries provided jump-masters certified on U.S. aircraft and parachute systems, allowing them to do exchange jumps, said Terwillinger.

                              “This event allows the paratroopers to trade tactics, techniques and procedures as well as build partnerships between multiple forces,” stated Terwillinger.

                              Several paratroopers from the U.S. and foreign nations participating in international jump week expressed their excitement jumping with other nations, and learning how their partners perform airborne operations.

                              “The best part of this jump week is the camaraderie between the American Army and us,” said the Belgium instructor of the training center for commandos. Everyone helping each other with jump preparations builds relationship, stated the Belgium commando.

                              An Irish jump master who participated in SOCUER’s first international jump week last year, stated this year’s international jump week was bigger with more nations participating and he is definitely looking forward to returning next year. “It was an honor to give out as many jump wings to the U.S. Army and other foreign nations,” stated the Irish jump master.

                              International jump week ended with a joint barbecue and an exchange of the coveted "jump wings" among the partner nations. Each paratrooper who jumped under a foreign jump master was awarded that nation's wings."

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                              • #75
                                Can any RDF members get onto that IJW or must you belong to an airborne unit?? 169 irish members got wings, yet i doubt 169 rangers (our only airborne unit) took part!!!!!
                                Last edited by morpheus; 15 August 2016, 12:00.
                                "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
                                "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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