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We had the FN in 86/87 in our stores when I joined. If I recall correctly we got rid in 2002 with them being finally withdrawn in 2003
Steyr was issued in 1989 to PDF, did you have FNs before the .303 was retired?
Just because things happened in 1 unit doesn't mean it happened throughout the DF
But it does mean that they were on issue before 1995.
The most unusual ones I came across were those with the 'extra butt plate' that hinged upwards. Got to fire AP ammo from one of these at a navigation hazard be fore the ante was upped to 20mm.Last edited by hptmurphy; 14 January 2014, 18:45.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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TD note the difference in the carrying handle and the body locking lever, plus they were over all black with a rubber butt plate.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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1989 as far as I remember. They were selected in 1987 and the paperwork, purchasing etc. happened in 1988. The first UNIFIL Bn to be issued with them was in Oct 89.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostThey were taken on charge brand new , never fired.
as for the Brens, they came with the information and it was continued.
What has security duties got to do with anythings you could name the pole in the DF who have intentionally( legally) fired a round while carrying out security duties in the past 25 years!
To have unused weapons in storage wouldn't be unusal, In 1985 in Haulbowline there was a rack of No 4 lee Enfields, unused in stores.
The FNs in the magazine of Eithne only saw the light of day when they were been put in and taken out and probably for ARPs and were almost brand new on issue.The only serious barrel wear on them was from cleaning!
On my gunnery course we took a Oerlikon from Stores still in the manufacturers packing grease never even fully assembled.
You under estimate the army, remember thse rfles were all bought and paid for at some point, there is record of what batch came from where and when and what unit was issued them and when they were struck off charge.
I saw weapons been written off as unsafe on the range as the bore was worn out, but again a lot of Reserve units were economic with their FNs, especially those with higher numbers which were newer. Take a corps unit who probably fired one arp per year, over the 11 years the FN was in service with the FCA/RDF...peanuts in terms of rounds.
You say the paperwork came with the Brens, this paperwork wasn't a requirement so how do you know it is accurate.
Some FNs and Brens would have been fired on ops overseas for example.
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostWe did the conversion to the Styer in 1999, First issued Steyrs in 2000, all FNs were gone from stores by 2001.
But it dosen't mean it didn't happen.
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We did the conversion to the Styer in 1999, First issued Steyrs in 2000, all FNs were gone from stores by 2001.
Steyr was issued in 1989 to PDF, did you have FNs before the .303 was retired?
Was a 2* in Nov. 1988 doing a week of duties in Clancy with the .303 still because the Bk Adj didn't believe I was qualified in the FN and ended up helping on the Ord Gp that was finalizing on the Steyr, and got to shoot a few rounds."Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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Was a 2* in Nov. 1988 doing a week of duties in Clancy with the .303 still because the Bk Adj didn't believe I was qualified in the FN
You say the paperwork came with the Brens, this paperwork wasn't a requirement so how do you know it is accurate.
I've seen it, it was an official log for the guns and even included the nominal price of the weapons, I know the man who kept the log...now unless you can't positively disprove that which I know about those weapons...
stop speculating...
There were rounds fired on security & ATCP duties maybe on hundreds through 1 barrel but it is more paper
Where did you serve,,, Gun Fight at the OK corral, hundreds of rounds up one barrel......
And yet we did conversion in 2000 and the unit didn't get Steyrs until 2002 at least.Last edited by hptmurphy; 14 January 2014, 18:42.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by trellheim View PostWas a 2* in Nov. 1988 doing a week of duties in Clancy with the .303 still because the Bk Adj didn't believe I was qualified in the FN
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Oh no I started those duties with the Fn. The Bk. Adj. who was a snaggy mcsnags made me put it back and take a 303 ( not that I was bitter , am still bitter and remember it to this day . Or anything )"Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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I used to do a few duties in Fermoy from time to time...FCA guards with PDF stand to parties, the younger orderly officers used to have to get the BOS to mount us as they couldn't figure out the arms drill.....a howl!Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostI used to do a few duties in Fermoy from time to time...FCA guards with PDF stand to parties, the younger orderly officers used to have to get the BOS to mount us as they couldn't figure out the arms drill.....a howl!Last edited by Laners; 15 January 2014, 21:36.Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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