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The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity.
(George Bernard Shaw, Playwright, 1856 - 1950)
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mary harney? In a cessna? If you did manage to get her in ghrough the door, the aircraft would start to sit on two wheels"The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"
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Originally posted by Eddie Dillon View PostGroundhog, are you trying to wind everyone up or are you actually just a small-minded, spiteful clown as your posts seem to portray you? You're something else.
But in general I am in fact small-minded, spiteful, cynical, snarling, captious, currish, sneering, disbelieving, misantrophic, negative, jaded, distrustful, disdainful, sceptical, sarcastic and mistrustful.
Ms Commins is acquiring cult status as a result of her kidnapping. Personally I think she should have stayed at home and not risked her life and inconvenienced others getting her released from captivity, but that's just me. Now that she has been released she's being used as PR by various Aid Agencies (who want to highlight their agenda) and the Dept of Foreign Affairs (because Mickey Martin wants to get elected leader of FF when Cowen gets the bum's rush). Hnece the government jet etc.
Originally posted by FoxtrotRK View PostDid her choice of eggs really offend you to this extent?
In this case my scepticism feeds on a diet of eggs benedict.Last edited by Groundhog; 24 October 2009, 00:03.sigpic
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Originally posted by hedgehogMy favourite moment was when theOriginally posted by hedgehogred headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head
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Originally posted by Groundhog View PostCareful you can be moderated for name calling. I'm actually a realist.
But in general I am in fact small-minded, spiteful, cynical, snarling, captious, currish, sneering, disbelieving, misantrophic, negative, jaded, distrustful, disdainful, sceptical, sarcastic and mistrustful.
Forgive me but I thought the primary function of both institutions is to do precisely that; inconvenience themselves in order to aid and protect their citizens (including those who are residing within their borders at any time)."Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied."
Otto Von Bismark
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Originally posted by Eddie Dillon View PostBut in fairness though are you actually serious? You're saying that instead of volunteering to help others less fortunate than her she should have stayed at home like yourself and not 'inconvenienced' others i.e. the Irish and Sudanese governments as well as others.
Did the help Ms Commins provided anyone justify the trouble caused by her going to Sudan and getting kidnapped? Does the Aid Industry fulfil its function? I would say No to both questions. Africa is a money pit into which we pour aid that solves nothing. People like Ms Commins head off to get their photo taken with little black babies.
Looks good in a resume. Just like my overseas service.
Originally posted by Eddie Dillon View PostForgive me but I thought the primary function of both institutions is to do precisely that; inconvenience themselves in order to aid and protect their citizens (including those who are residing within their borders at any time).sigpic
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Originally posted by hedgehogMy favourite moment was when theOriginally posted by hedgehogred headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head
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Originally posted by Groundhog View PostBut in general I am in fact small-minded, spiteful, cynical, snarling, captious, currish, sneering, disbelieving, misantrophic, negative, jaded, distrustful, disdainful, sceptical, sarcastic and mistrustfulLast edited by WES; 24 October 2009, 13:26.The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity.
(George Bernard Shaw, Playwright, 1856 - 1950)
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Originally posted by Eddie Dillon View PostForgive me but I thought the primary function of both institutions is to do precisely that; inconvenience themselves in order to aid and protect their citizens (including those who are residing within their borders at any time).
Originally posted by Tadpole View PostIf the only reason we can justify a Governmet jet is to fly home 2 hostagesLast edited by WES; 24 October 2009, 13:27.The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity.
(George Bernard Shaw, Playwright, 1856 - 1950)
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I think your mixing everything into the one pot here-
for a start no one ever hear d a [peep about Miss Cummins when she was working thos other couple of
years for Goal- she only came to the public attention when she was kidnapped- she
didnt ask to be kidnapped and she never once looked for celebrity cult status- or have you heard
something from some other sources- what ever anyone may think about giving aid to africa
she is a young Irish woman who could have been sitting every night in Copper faces or working in
some accountancy practice- instead she chose to give up all of that and actually do something to
help others in this world- the people she was helping are not the corrupt dictators but the ordinary
people of the world-
as a society we should always help our own and if this meant flying out the govt jet to bring her home
10 minuets quicker than an ordinary flight- well bully for her.
When I came back from my first trip to the leb- my mam asked me what I was most looking forward
to I said a chicken buster burger from the local chipper- I dont think any sane rational person
pigeon holed me for that statement- I dont think any sane rational person would judge me as
unworthy because of that.
I am glad she is home safe- I am happy for her family and freinds but I am also a bit happy and proud
that an Irish girl went out into harms way not for money- not for fame - not even for a medal
but simply to help those less fortunate than herself-
add petty cheap cantankerous and miserable to your list.Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Aid agencies sometimes do more harm then good. When they're good, enganging with locals, fostering local enterprise and local knowledge, not imposing their own ideas on communities, they've good. often this isn't the case, often they've got an agenda e.g. religious or political, and often their seen as condescending outsiders.
As for volunteers, by the nature of the beast, they're a mixed bunch. Some people want to save/change the world, without realising that they really need to change themselves. some want to take some time for themselves. some do it to burnish their career, some want adventure, some are very good and genuine at what they do.
However i would not begrudge her a seat home in the government jetLast edited by paul g; 25 October 2009, 01:13.
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Originally posted by hedgehog View PostI think your mixing everything into the one pot here-
for a start no one ever hear d a [peep about Miss Cummins when she was working thos other couple of
years for Goal- she only came to the public attention when she was kidnapped- she
didnt ask to be kidnapped and she never once looked for celebrity cult status- or have you heard
something from some other sources- what ever anyone may think about giving aid to africa
she is a young Irish woman who could have been sitting every night in Copper faces or working in
some accountancy practice- instead she chose to give up all of that and actually do something to
help others in this world- the people she was helping are not the corrupt dictators but the ordinary
people of the world-
as a society we should always help our own and if this meant flying out the govt jet to bring her home
10 minuets quicker than an ordinary flight- well bully for her.
When I came back from my first trip to the leb- my mam asked me what I was most looking forward
to I said a chicken buster burger from the local chipper- I dont think any sane rational person
pigeon holed me for that statement- I dont think any sane rational person would judge me as
unworthy because of that.
I am glad she is home safe- I am happy for her family and freinds but I am also a bit happy and proud
that an Irish girl went out into harms way not for money- not for fame - not even for a medal
but simply to help those less fortunate than herself-
add petty cheap cantankerous and miserable to your list.
I wonder will they make the same hoopla when they get Fr Sinnott back?sigpic
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Originally posted by hedgehogMy favourite moment was when theOriginally posted by hedgehogred headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head
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Originally posted by WES View PostWho was the second hostage that was flown home?
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love."
Marcus Aurelius Roman Emperor (161 to 180 A.D.)
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