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    If we are going down the civvy 4x4 car market, would a pickup type crew cab with covered cargo area fit the bill?


    I'm thinking Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi L200 Double cab, Toyota HILUX, VW Amarok, Isuzu D-Max etc.
    Assuming of course said vehicle has sufficient room in the rear seat for an adult. Many only have a seat suitable for a small child in a baby seat, or a double amputee..
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    The tender says must accomodate 4 DF personnel. Min height is 157.48cm which is probably what all vendors will use as a maximum!

    Now if the tender specified said : must accomodate 4 DF personnel of a minimum height of 157.48cm and a maximum of 200cm with an approximate weight of 85kg each with all occupants wearing body armour, battlevests (fully laden), helmets"

    Then they might get something that actually fits!

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    Obviously written by people who never sit in the back. I think the VW Amarokhas the biggest crewcab on the market so they probably wont get that

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    The Toyota Land Cruiser will replace the Pajero.
    The first vehicles should be delivered before the end of the year.

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    Fantastic news. I heard lately that Mitsubishi have stopped making the Pajero. The land cruiser remains the best in the business. Ask any farmer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    The Toyota Land Cruiser will replace the Pajero.
    The first vehicles should be delivered before the end of the year.
    Makes sense when you consider the AUV's are Land Cruisers also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    The Toyota Land Cruiser will replace the Pajero.
    The first vehicles should be delivered before the end of the year.
    https://avondhupress.ie/irish-defenc...land-cruisers/

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    there will of course be a Naval Service version
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    Time for another break I think......

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    Will the Air Corps version be camouflaged on top, and painted sky blue underneath?
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    Unconfirmed pic of ARW's stealth paintjob.

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    2.8 L or 3L engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Will the Air Corps version be camouflaged on top, and painted sky blue underneath?
    No, Silver with orange mirrors.

    What do you think this is? The RAF?

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    probably blue and yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TangoSierra View Post
    2.8 L or 3L engine?
    Pretty sure they're 2.8l, 177bhp assuming they've gone for the 5 speed manual

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    It's still a better engine than the 3 litre in the pajero.
    We got one in work recently, replacing a pajero, much better pulling power. (Both automatics).
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    €43,000 each in Civvy st. Approx €11m for 280 cars.

    Seems to be plenty of money for vehicles, planes and ships.

    Not so much for the operators of said equipment!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A/TEL View Post
    €43,000 each in Civvy st. Approx €11m for 280 cars.

    Seems to be plenty of money for vehicles, planes and ships.

    Not so much for the operators of said equipment!.
    €43000 would only get you the vehicle. There are extras that are needed that would not be standard.

    Hitch, wiring, lighting controls etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasia View Post
    €43000 would only get you the vehicle. There are extras that are needed that would not be standard.

    Hitch, wiring, lighting controls etc

    Good point. Would imagine a discount for ordering a large amount though.

    Transport budget must be one of the bigger ones in the DF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A/TEL View Post
    Good point. Would imagine a discount for ordering a large amount though.

    Transport budget must be one of the bigger ones in the DF.
    There are general budgets and then there are times that extra money is made available for special projects.

    I am reliably informed that extra money was made available, ring-fenced for this special project. None of the three new fleets under procurement this year are coming from the small budget allocated to transport

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasia View Post
    There are general budgets and then there are times that extra money is made available for special projects.

    I am reliably informed that extra money was made available, ring-fenced for this special project. None of the three new fleets under procurement this year are coming from the small budget allocated to transport
    That happens a bit alright. P64 was an example of that.

    Good to see we will have a standard fleet of Land Cruisers now both softskin and armoured

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    Should have been the case since before the Patrol GR.
    Worth noting however that like everyone else, Toyota is cancelling the Land Cruiser in 2022. Whether a total redesign happens then, or like the Pajero and Patrol, it will no loger be manfactured, remains to be seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Should have been the case since before the Patrol GR.
    Worth noting however that like everyone else, Toyota is cancelling the Land Cruiser in 2022. Whether a total redesign happens then, or like the Pajero and Patrol, it will no loger be manfactured, remains to be seen.
    Ah seriously......

    Hopefully a similar vehicle will replace it.

    Any increase on electric vehicle procurement?

    Only a few vans at present

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    Quote Originally Posted by A/TEL View Post
    €43,000 each in Civvy st. Approx €11m for 280 cars.

    Seems to be plenty of money for vehicles, planes and ships.

    Not so much for the operators of said equipment!.
    Would servicing, repairs NCT etc be handled in-house, done by Toyota as an extra cost, or be part of the €11 million deal (for a few years, anyway)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Would servicing, repairs NCT etc be handled in-house, done by Toyota as an extra cost, or be part of the €11 million deal (for a few years, anyway)?
    If they follow previous precedent (Hyundai i30 & i40) all servicing during warranty would be carried out by manufacturer, but at an extra cost. After that ?? who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Should have been the case since before the Patrol GR.
    Worth noting however that like everyone else, Toyota is cancelling the Land Cruiser in 2022. Whether a total redesign happens then, or like the Pajero and Patrol, it will no loger be manfactured, remains to be seen.
    My understanding is that the Landcruiser is being withdrawn from the US market in 2022. Remember, the Landcruiser sold there is the top spec model with a thirsty petrol engine, not the utilitarian version sold elsewhere. The issue is, theres only a few thousand dollars between the landcruiser and the competing Lexus and they sell about 5000 a year in the entire USA. Its very much a niche vehicle for genuine offroad enthusiasts over there.

    Online sources point towards the next generation of Landcruiser appearing late 2020 to 2021, however we can't afford to wait. The plus side to this, is that the current generation has been around for the best part of a decade or more, so there are plenty of parts available now and going forward.

    Ref the AUV fleet - these have been heavily customised by centigon, so parts commonality mightn't be as great as may initially appear, I understand that the armour the vehicles a lot of things have to be pulled out, and when they were put back together, it wasn't necessarily Toyota parts that went back in. If the teething problems are sorted, then they will hopefully give good service over the next decade - they're certainly miles ahead of the old centigon nissan patrols.

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