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Toyota selected just in time it seems, Mitsubishi are withdrawing completely from the European market and will stop developing vehicles to meet european regulations.
Interestingly the article points to Chinese makes being put forward as a replacement for the Japanese brand in the UK market.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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It looks like out local Mitsubishi dealer was wise to diversify into MG’s'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostToyota selected just in time it seems, Mitsubishi are withdrawing completely from the European market and will stop developing vehicles to meet european regulations.
Interestingly the article points to Chinese makes being put forward as a replacement for the Japanese brand in the UK market.
I should mention that I have never owned a diesel power car nor will either... a true petrol head till the day I die
So my question being where do the DF see themselves in 10 years in relation to this type of vehicle?
Will they go green to be PC ?
Or will specialist military vehicles be exempt from Green Branding ?
Will militaries , such as us be forced to have specialist vehicles in storage for deployment and our everyday runarounds such as these 4 x 4s become hybrids.
The Brits and Y have already gone down this road after GW 2 with specialist vehicles such a Jackal , Mastiff etc surplanting soft skinned vehicles and making things like armoured landrovers etc redundant and are looking at vehicles to replace land rover which will no doubt have to have 'green elements' and be less multitasking capable than Landrover
I wonder what the Irish path will be.Last edited by hptmurphy; 29 July 2020, 16:15.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostI drive a Mitsubishi, my second one in the range and will be changing probably next year to a third of the type, all second hand Lancers. Probably the best cars I ever owned. However the move toward hybrid and electric cars bothers me for various reasons and I believe diesel powered vehicles in the SUV / 4 x 4 variety will be non existent within 10 years .
I should mention that I have never owned a diesel power car nor will either... a true petrol head till the day I die
So my question being where do the DF see themselves in 10 years in relation to this type of vehicle?
Will they go green to be PC ?
Or will specialist military vehicles be exempt from Green Branding ?
Will militaries , such as us be forced to have specialist vehicles in storage for deployment and our everyday runarounds such as these 4 x 4s become hybrids.
The Brits and Y have already gone down this road after GW 2 with specialist vehicles such a Jackal , Mastiff etc surplanting soft skinned vehicles and making things like armoured landrovers etc redundant and are looking at vehicles to replace land rover which will no doubt have to have 'green elements' and be less multitasking capable than Landrover
I wonder what the Irish path will be.
For that “green” fleet it very much depends on how other militaries Go
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It's all about security of supply. While diesel (or petrol) is readily available and efficient, then it will be the norm. The transition from Petrol to diesel was quite a slow one in military circles, compared to the rest of the transport using world. I see Hybrid becoming more widespread for the next few decades at least.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostI drive a Mitsubishi, my second one in the range and will be changing probably next year to a third of the type, all second hand Lancers. Probably the best cars I ever owned. However the move toward hybrid and electric cars bothers me for various reasons and I believe diesel powered vehicles in the SUV / 4 x 4 variety will be non existent within 10 years .
I should mention that I have never owned a diesel power car nor will either... a true petrol head till the day I die
So my question being where do the DF see themselves in 10 years in relation to this type of vehicle?
Will they go green to be PC ?
Or will specialist military vehicles be exempt from Green Branding ?
Will militaries , such as us be forced to have specialist vehicles in storage for deployment and our everyday runarounds such as these 4 x 4s become hybrids.
The Brits and Y have already gone down this road after GW 2 with specialist vehicles such a Jackal , Mastiff etc surplanting soft skinned vehicles and making things like armoured landrovers etc redundant and are looking at vehicles to replace land rover which will no doubt have to have 'green elements' and be less multitasking capable than Landrover
I wonder what the Irish path will be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXZj9YEd8cs
https://defense.otokar.com.tr/tekerl...x4-zirhli-arac
The fully electrical version could be a possible "green" replacement for the RG32's, wonder if the DF would qualify for a grant?
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostOtakar in Turkey have already displayed an electrically powered recon vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXZj9YEd8cs
https://defense.otokar.com.tr/tekerl...x4-zirhli-arac
The fully electrical version could be a possible "green" replacement for the RG32's, wonder if the DF would qualify for a grant?
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Originally posted by apc View PostI can definitely see hybrids becoming more common on the battlefield and the "white Fleet" but I think fully electric vehicle are a no go and will be for a long time to come. The need for an external power source to recharge negates their widespread use bar some specialist roles
Would it be enough to allow for a typical UNIFIL patrol including the system needs?
The latest Japanese submarine has gone fully Al-Lit battery for their AIPS instead of fuel cell, so it might be that batteries are getting to a level that could be useful.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostIt would be interesting to know what the range of such hybrid military vehicles would be, how much power can the battery system supply?
Would it be enough to allow for a typical UNIFIL patrol including the system needs?
The latest Japanese submarine has gone fully Al-Lit battery for their AIPS instead of fuel cell, so it might be that batteries are getting to a level that could be useful.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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PHEV for deployments could be interesting; get a few PHEV Land Cruisers and do some trials. Then send them along with some solar cells and a wind turbine or two out to our boys in Lebanon and see how they work on such a deployment. The latter of course all being paid by the Department of Transport.
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