Within the 12 mile limit it is mainly smaller boats that do the fishing, like the 604 less than 6m that are currently on the register. As for AIS 1783 of the boats are under the 15m limit so relying on AIS to track is not going to cut mustard. Just like our lack of air search radar our NS needs to have a chain of coastal radars to be able to monitor our coastal waters.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostWithin the 12 mile limit it is mainly smaller boats that do the fishing, like the 604 less than 6m that are currently on the register. As for AIS 1783 of the boats are under the 15m limit so relying on AIS to track is not going to cut mustard. Just like our lack of air search radar our NS needs to have a chain of coastal radars to be able to monitor our coastal waters.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostThe National Marine Planning Framework makes interesting reading especially all the detailed maps that it contains. The map on pg44 shows the extent of the areas currently designated, but looking further one can guess just where new zones are likely. As a lot of these areas will affect small fishing boat activities the main concern will be how the effected person will get alternative employment. Will they find employment in the offshore wind industry?
Overall a lot to digest in the document. Hopefully it is an indication that we are slowly turning around to look outward at the sea rather than standing on the strand looking inward.
https://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/def...work_final.pdf
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThe Govt. document referenced above is part of Marine Spatial planning and was produced by the State's Housing department. It says very little on implying curtailment to fishing, other than to say stocks should be healthy and mature enough to be caught, while waters should be pristine and fit for purpose. A majority of things wrong with coastal waters, in general ,is under the management of extended Government. Globally resources of any kind are plundered and mistreated not least Bogs, mines, waterways, scenic sites, transient industries of an extractive nature like ISH in Haulbowline.
Do we want to declare the U-boat graveyard off the Donegal coast a protect area due to its historical significance and as a fish refuge? Do we want to protect certain spawning areas like that for Mackerel? Or maybe not if we cannot catch the fish later when they are in UK waters!
My main issue is that no matter what we declare as protected areas we need the means to monitor then 24/7 as that is the first step in enforcement.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostIt is a draft for consultation and the dept that is coordinating it is responsible for Planning and Local Government. The consultation document covers almost everything that relates to our seas including the discharges into them. It sets out the status today and the question that it is posing is what do we want to do and where?
Do we want to declare the U-boat graveyard off the Donegal coast a protect area due to its historical significance and as a fish refuge? Do we want to protect certain spawning areas like that for Mackerel? Or maybe not if we cannot catch the fish later when they are in UK waters!
My main issue is that no matter what we declare as protected areas we need the means to monitor then 24/7 as that is the first step in enforcement.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostI agree in principle with your analysis of where we are. The whole issue revolves around whether we clean up at sea or stop land based pollutants entering the sea through half baked sewerage and industrial systems. Most cities world wide had barges dumping everything at sea both liquid and solid. We need a system of discharge licences and appropriate oversight. Where the Navy come in is to stop deliberate infractions. Fish is a thorny problem as to ownership of stocks, if they are born in Irish waters, when are they common stock, and who can catch them. The latter was easy under EU oversight. Unfortunately Brexit breaks that mould and increases duty for oversight.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostThe "out of sight out of mind" has to be tackled, even the idea of dumping sewage into the sea is something we should stop. No only does it pollute but it is a waste of a potential green fuel: bio-gas.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostAnd today's backpage headlines in Irish Examiner "Conservation groups shamefully underfunded "by the State. It will be an uphill battle looking for pocket money for a myriad of tasks.
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Originally posted by Graylion View Post
Finally in another part of this thread about Designers of Defence policy and ToR's for the Defence Commission--terms such as "we will pursue a policy of ACTIVE military neutrality " might indicate that we have no intention to equip to deal with matters outside of our visual horizon. We should be able to reach Ireland plus limits of the EEZ.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostIt was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
It was a new age...It was the end of history.
It was the year everything changed.
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It just occurs to me, if we do buy these two and the MRV is still going to happen are we now seeing the Navy going up to 10 hulls and if so surely there will have to be an increase in personnel above the current formal establishment even with the manpower crisis?
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