Just waiting for the DoD to say we only need one because we have no space to park 2.
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Originally posted by Anzac View PostIt is a bit far away but getting them back to Ireland on the delivery cruise would be a brilliant journey.
I have plotted the course. Taking both vessels. A Kiwi-Irish mixed crew or each take one vessel each and sailing from Auckland and heading north to Rarotonga for a couple of nights at Wilson's Beach Bar, then up to Pearl and the bars in Honolulu, across to Coronado NB San Diego, then down to Panama and then through the Panama Canal to Mayport Fl, then north to with a stop in Boston on the way then onto Halifax NS, and finally across the last stretch to Cork.
That would be the highlight of any Naval career and be the stuff of legends which it sadly probably will be
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostI would prefer sailing westwards via Auckland, Melbourne, Perth, Broome, Surabaya, Colombo, Aden, Suez/Port said, Gibraltar, Cork 48/50 days including stops.Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostI would prefer sailing westwards via Auckland, Melbourne, Perth, Broome, Surabaya, Colombo, Aden, Suez/Port said, Gibraltar, Cork 48/50 days including stops.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostIn the case DoD recommendation will be four
Huge opportunityCovid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostBuy the four, better to have them sitting there rather than having to look for something when we need them. If these were to be based out of Dublin this is the type of vessel that could be manned by properly trained reservists. get away from the small boat navy reserve mentality and go to where the RN were in the past with the RNR manning this type of vessel when required.
Huge opportunity
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Originally posted by Auldsod View PostHardly worth it when the reserve even if fully manned would only be able to take them out two weeks of the year and a few weekends?
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If each NSR Reservist could give one week, that's 113 weeks were they could crew, leaving the remaining to get their qualifying courses, I'm assuming from reading thread here they are needed. And they should definitely be able to augment fulltime crew. They could also do alot of weekend reliefs, duties. This would be a valuable contribution by Reservists to help with Brexit
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Originally posted by batterysgt View PostIf each NSR Reservist could give one week, that's 113 weeks were they could crew, leaving the remaining to get their qualifying courses, I'm assuming from reading thread here they are needed. And they should definitely be able to augment fulltime crew. They could also do alot of weekend reliefs, duties. This would be a valuable contribution by Reservists to help with BrexitFor now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by batterysgt View PostIf each NSR Reservist could give one week, that's 113 weeks were they could crew, leaving the remaining to get their qualifying courses, I'm assuming from reading thread here they are needed. And they should definitely be able to augment fulltime crew. They could also do alot of weekend reliefs, duties. This would be a valuable contribution by Reservists to help with Brexit
I do however 100% agree that reservists could augment these crews in a very useful way especially considering the shorter range of the new ships would assuredly mean one week patrols or less. Could be an excellent match.
The key of course is planning. Slots could be held on the patrol plan for reservists to slot in for week long stints (or shorter or longer) and could be planned in well in advance.
The whole plan would fall however when the model is to go looking for NSR two days before a ship is due to go sea to fills gaps. Just a recipe for disappointment for everyone.
The NSR could be a valuable reserve but not if its expected to regularly and dependably fill unexpected gaps in routine operations with little advance warning.
If the Navy needs me as a body to assist with getting ships out on patrol, I am more than willing to plan ahead around my private sector occupation and do my bit. For anything a bit more troublesome for the state, the Minister can call me into permanent service and I'll be there.Last edited by Auldsod; 20 December 2020, 22:07.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostHave you considered how long it takes to complete the training required to operate these ships?
Training an all NSR crew to man these ships is fantasy. Now I'm entering the realm of speculation here but I'd assume that the mine countermeasure vessels operated by the RNR during the Cold War would have some level of regular RN support and crewing plus a healthy number of ex regulars amongst the RNR personnel.Last edited by Auldsod; 20 December 2020, 22:05.
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