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View Poll Results: (Realistically) What best to replace the Peacock CPVs with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientmariner View Post
    Whatever ship we get built for the Multi Role, it must add to jointedness within the Navy, RAS etc, and also military deployments, plus HADR incidents, plus towing capability, self Defence, and HQ facilities at Sea and support to those on shore. The first considerations are Speed, Range, and Tonnage Payload. How many Tonnes to be loaded and how many Tonnes to be discharged to or for others, and what is the take up of ballast to keep the vessel operable at sea.
    Any vessel size can be multi-roled, just because we are supposed to get a 130m MRV does not mean that this term can only be applied to that vessel. It is just a name, they can be called Multi-Role Auxiliary Vessel or Multi-Purpose Vessel it does not mean a thing really. The vessel listed would not be for troop transport but for the large vessels to replace the CPVs.
    They are MRV's because of what they can do: Fishery protection, environmental protection, traffic control, towing, fire fighting, oil recovering, rescue/salvage operations, diving operations, ROV support et.al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUFighter View Post
    Any vessel size can be multi-roled, just because we are supposed to get a 130m MRV does not mean that this term can only be applied to that vessel. It is just a name, they can be called Multi-Role Auxiliary Vessel or Multi-Purpose Vessel it does not mean a thing really. The vessel listed would not be for troop transport but for the large vessels to replace the CPVs.
    They are MRV's because of what they can do: Fishery protection, environmental protection, traffic control, towing, fire fighting, oil recovering, rescue/salvage operations, diving operations, ROV support et.al.
    I agree that any vessel can be tasked, and even temporarily fitted, for a range of roles. The MRV concept was to include such flexibility but also include lane metres for vehicles, passage accommodation for troops or those in need of emergency evacuation, Cranes to deploy P & S LCVP and RHIB's . For budget purposes it has been described as MRV. We have certainly multi roled our existing vessels, especially in the Mediterranean in the last couple of years. The new vessel will have all the capabilities built in.
    Last edited by ancientmariner; 26th January 2020 at 10:20.

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    They aren’t CPVs but interesting placement of TEUs aft of the RHIBs on HMS Medway (River class Batch 2)

    https://twitter.com/navylookout/stat...470426112?s=21

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    I think there is scope for 2 different vessels. The EPV/MRV which is a large vessel which has helideck and lane metres. The other vessel, a CPV replacement, which can do some of the inshore patrol, but also has facilities to act as ETV or Dive support vessel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    They aren’t CPVs but interesting placement of TEUs aft of the RHIBs on HMS Medway (River class Batch 2)

    https://twitter.com/navylookout/stat...470426112?s=21
    it's a flight deck and it's just "resting " there for a project or transportation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientmariner View Post
    it's a flight deck and it's just "resting " there for a project or transportation.

    Look again

    Starboard side aft of the RHIB and before the flight deck

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Look again

    Starboard side aft of the RHIB and before the flight deck
    It seems it is all equipment and vehicles for the Carribean. It is Not a normal part of the ships outfit. Eithne could do the same but not the remaining ships as they are restricted due to oversight of not including Flight Decks. I did miss the blue and mini-container on stbd-side. Small Navies shouldn't build ships of restricted use as you are stuck with your choice for about 40 years. Working with CG helicopters far offshore limits their choices and safety if you cannot offer a flight deck as a haven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Look again

    Starboard side aft of the RHIB and before the flight deck
    Her twitter feed is now showing the second container moved forward like the one on the starboard side.
    https://twitter.com/HMS_Medway

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUFighter View Post
    Her twitter feed is now showing the second container moved forward like the one on the starboard side.
    https://twitter.com/HMS_Medway
    It might be better stowed more into the centerline behind the accommodation block as the port side will be the predominant weather side going East/west across the Atlantic.

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