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  • LMV looks well

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    • The key matter of interest is the linked communications and combat system which allows for a tailored response and weapon choices. It is that level of capability that we need on all of our newer ships to co-ordinate fleet level actions. AFIK we redacted the ops-room features on P31, going backwards, rather than upgrading installed functions.Going forward we need to be aware of the speeds and variety of modern maritime threats.

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      • I fully agree with the point about C4I. I like the LMV, looks like a good ship. But what do we need CPVs for? I'd replace the CPVs with OPVs. Once we have 12 of those (or ships that can fulfil that rôle), then we can talk about other stuff. Also I think everything we buy should have a helo deck and a hangar - even if it is just for a 5t helo

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        • Originally posted by DeV View Post
          Depending on the Accomodiation standards and if you could increase the endurance (from 14 to 21 days) - could be a winner
          How would it fare in the North Atlantic?

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          • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
            The key matter of interest is the linked communications and combat system which allows for a tailored response and weapon choices. It is that level of capability that we need on all of our newer ships to co-ordinate fleet level actions. AFIK we redacted the ops-room features on P31, going backwards, rather than upgrading installed functions.Going forward we need to be aware of the speeds and variety of modern maritime threats.
            The 'Belgian Naval Component' is about to lose its 51 year old Command and control vessel without replacement but all future vessels will have the facility for a plug in version of what normally one ship would do.

            Not a bad option
            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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            • Ref the counter-mine/C-IED capability.

              Found another option.

              Something along the lines of "Sea Wasp" doesn't even need 1 TEU.

              Not as capable as "Double Eagle" but probably much more affordable and increases the off the shelf design options
              Last edited by DeV; 6 July 2017, 23:04.

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              • Go on Dev.

                Post the hyperlink.

                I'm on the edge of my seat here Mate...
                'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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                • Originally posted by spider View Post
                  Go on Dev.

                  Post the hyperlink.

                  I'm on the edge of my seat here Mate...
                  UUV porn just for you






                  Looks like it is in pre-production maybe saw something yesterday saying there was 4 in operation

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                  • I remain unconvinced on the subject of adding anti mime capacity to vessels that are not non magnetic.

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                    • Originally posted by Graylion View Post
                      I remain unconvinced on the subject of adding anti mime capacity to vessels that are not non magnetic.
                      Never heard of pressure box or acoustic mines, degaussing and sonic protection?
                      Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                      • Or UUVs?

                        More technology means a UUV/USV is always in front of the MCMV

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                        • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                          Or UUVs?

                          More technology means a UUV/USV is always in front of the MCMV
                          Ships dealing with influence mines, usually laid singly by stealth, use a variety of remote, off ship means, to approach and detonate such mines. The clearance is done by Clearance Divers of which the Naval Service will have a couple at most. Hms Tyne an OPV is being re-equipped to act as a base ship for clearance diving operations to replace a Sandown Mine hunter. Standard steel vessels with correct/safe distances from suspected mines can deploy teams/equipment to deal with mines in known locations.

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                          • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                            Ships dealing with influence mines, usually laid singly by stealth, use a variety of remote, off ship means, to approach and detonate such mines. The clearance is done by Clearance Divers of which the Naval Service will have a couple at most. Hms Tyne an OPV is being re-equipped to act as a base ship for clearance diving operations to replace a Sandown Mine hunter. Standard steel vessels with correct/safe distances from suspected mines can deploy teams/equipment to deal with mines in known locations.
                            +1

                            The common practice is currently that a USV/UUV will be used for mine detection

                            As I said something like Sea Wasp would give some capability without the need for a load of space for TEUs aft.

                            If we wanted more capability you need more space aft for Clearance Divers and their kit and/or a more capable counter mine UUV.

                            Maybe something like this

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                            • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                              +1

                              The common practice is currently that a USV/UUV will be used for mine detection

                              As I said something like Sea Wasp would give some capability without the need for a load of space for TEUs aft.

                              If we wanted more capability you need more space aft for Clearance Divers and their kit and/or a more capable counter mine UUV.

                              Maybe something like this
                              https://youtu.be/_X9gCIJx_Cc
                              The conceptual Mine detection is interesting and someday it may work. The US is looking at a suitable remotely controlled surface vessels of low magnetic signature. By and large tethering anything to the ship keeps it in harms way, right now we are still with Mine hunters, clearance divers, and MCMV's.

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