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    Royal Navy submariner defends attack on Trident safety

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32771925

    A Royal Navy submariner has defended his criticism of safety procedures around the Trident nuclear submarines and revealed he will hand himself over to the authorities within days.

    William McNeilly went on the run after alleging the Trident programme was a "disaster waiting to happen."

    Able Seaman McNeilly said: "Other people need to start coming forward."

    The Royal Navy said that the Clyde-based submarine fleet operated "under the most stringent safety regime."

    An official investigation has been launched after Mr McNeilly, from Belfast, raised his safety concerns in an internet post.


    He said he was an Engineering Technician Submariner who was on patrol with HMS Victorious this year.

    Mr McNeily has written an 18-page report, called The Secret Nuclear Threat, detailing what he claims are serious security and safety breaches on board the vessel.

    'Serving the people'

    Speaking to the BBC, he said: "I'm not hiding from arrest; I will be back in the UK in the next few days and I will hand myself in to the police."

    He said prison would be "such a nice reward for sacrificing everything to warn the public and government".

    And he added: "Unfortunately that's the world we live in. I know it's a lot to sacrifice and it is a hard road to walk down, but other people need to start coming forward.

    "Now I have no career, no money, no freedom, no chance of spending quality time with my family and friends. But I also have no regrets. There is no better feeling than truly serving the people.

    "Finding this path wasn't hard, given the circumstances it was practically illuminating. I have faith that one day the people with the power to make a difference will understand where I'm coming from, and start working towards creating a better world."

    The Royal Navy confirmed that Mr McNeilly was a member of the naval service, and that it was concerned for his wellbeing and working closely with civilian police to locate him.

    Safety regime

    A Navy spokesman said: "The Royal Navy takes security and nuclear safety extremely seriously and we are fully investigating both the issue of the unauthorised release of this document and its contents.

    "The naval service operates its submarine fleet under the most stringent safety regime and submarines do not go to sea unless they are completely safe to do so."

    The spokesman also said the Navy "completely disagreed" with Mr McNeilly's report, claiming that it "contains a number of subjective and unsubstantiated personal views, made by a very junior sailor."

    However, they added that it was "right" that the contents of the document were considered in detail.

    Security passes

    Mr McNeilly has said his aim was "to break down the false images of a perfect system that most people envisage exists".

    Incidents the 25-year-old included in his report varied from complaints about food hygiene to failures in testing whether missiles could safely be launched or not.

    He described security passes and bags going unchecked at the Faslane submarine base on the Clyde, alarms being muted "to avoid listening" to them, and stories of fires starting in missile compartments.

    Mr McNeilly said he raised these and other concerns through the chain of command on multiple occasions, but that "not once did someone even attempt to make a change."

    He insisted that he has been careful about the information he had chosen to release so as to avoid prejudicing security.

    'New threat'

    Speaking from a secret location, the submariner said: "Nuclear weapons have served a purpose in history. They maintain peace through fear alone. That peace can no longer be maintained by nuclear weapons... anyone who reads the report or has knowledge of the system will see that.

    "The world is constantly evolving. We face a new threat now. Every great nation on this planet has been infiltrated by terrorists; even the systems have come extremely close to causing a catastrophe themselves, on numerous covered up occasions.

    "You don't have to be Alexander the Great to see the lack strategy in keeping these systems, that are tremendously destructive and extremely open to attack, on our homeland. "

    The SNP's Westminster leader Angus Robertson said the report read as "a nightmare catalogue of serious safety breaches aboard and alongside these nuclear armed submarines" and called for the Ministry of Defence to make public the results of its investigation.

    He added: "Failure to follow standard safety procedures is unacceptable in any workplace but on a Vanguard submarine on patrol it could result in extreme tragedy not just for those on board but indeed for the entire planet."
    "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

  • #2
    Trident submarine whistleblower

    See http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...urn-himself-in

    There's a link to his report thing in the article, faaking hell if half of it's true a Stalin style purge would be necessary in BAE & the RN. An utterly British shambles! I can't figure out how to download it on my phone so you'll have to register to scribe to read it.
    Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

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    • #3
      Here is a direct link.

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      • #4
        If there is any substance to this, then clearly it needs to be looked into. However, even before I read the part about the Navy being 'concerned for his wellbeing', there are subtle features to his writing which sound somewhat manic and grandiose, i.e. possible serious mental health issues. We'll have to wait and see.

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        • #5
          I'm sure that it is all blown out of proportion and utter nonsense.

          I knew a RN Submariner and he was an absolutely professional sailor and wouldn't have tolerated anything like this guy describes. Nor, would I expect the RN to tolerate it.
          Remember, the RN bombers pride themselves on being Britain's nuclear deterrent.
          Any time I have been in a British installation, and anyone I know who has, has only ever found very, very tight security.

          While his intentions are good and commendable, his execution warrants his face getting acquainted with some very large boots!

          I hear Colchester is a fun place....

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          • #6
            It partially seems to me, that he may have been inspired by the likes of Snowden and Manning and may have joined the RN with a view to pulling a stunt like this.
            At least, that's how some of his essay, I wouldn't call it a report, comes across to me.

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            • #7
              I've just read that. Oooo he won't be treated well
              "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

              "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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              • #8
                Trident whistleblower William McNeilly hands himself in

                http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32791755

                A Royal Navy submariner who criticised Trident nuclear submarine safety procedures has handed himself in to police on his return to the UK.

                William McNeilly, 25, went on the run after alleging the Trident missile programme, based on the Clyde, was a "disaster waiting to happen".

                Able Seaman Mr McNeilly, from Belfast, has written a report, detailing "serious security and safety breaches".

                The Navy said the fleet operated "under the most stringent safety regime".

                The MoD said Mr McNeilly was "apprehended" by Royal Navy Police at Edinburgh Airport on Monday night and was being held at a military establishment in Scotland.

                An official investigation was launched after Mr McNeilly raised his safety concerns in an internet post.

                He said he was an Engineering Technician Submariner who was on patrol with HMS Victorious this year.

                Victorious is one of the four submarines based at Faslane on the Clyde which are armed with the Trident missile system, Britain's nuclear deterrent.

                Mr McNeilly has written an 18-page report, called The Secret Nuclear Threat, detailing what he claims are serious security and safety breaches on board the vessel.

                Incidents included in his report varied from complaints about food hygiene to failures in testing whether missiles could safely be launched or not.

                He described security passes and bags going unchecked at the Faslane submarine base on the Clyde, alarms being muted "to avoid listening" to them, and stories of fires starting in missile compartments.

                Mr McNeilly said he raised these and other concerns through the chain of command on multiple occasions, but that "not once did someone even attempt to make a change".

                He insisted that he has been careful about the information he had chosen to release so as to avoid prejudicing security.

                Speaking to the BBC, Mr McNeilly said he was "not hiding from arrest".

                He said prison would be "such a nice reward for sacrificing everything to warn the public and government".

                He added: "Unfortunately that's the world we live in. I know it's a lot to sacrifice and it is a hard road to walk down, but other people need to start coming forward.

                "Now I have no career, no money, no freedom, no chance of spending quality time with my family and friends. But I also have no regrets. There is no better feeling than truly serving the people.

                "Finding this path wasn't hard, given the circumstances it was practically illuminating. I have faith that one day the people with the power to make a difference will understand where I'm coming from, and start working towards creating a better world."

                Safety regime

                On Monday, a post on a Facebook profile apparently belonging to Mr McNeilly said he had "moved between countries, changed location almost every day", but now "lacks the resources to remain undetected".

                "I will be handing myself into the police today," it said.

                A Navy spokesman said: "The Royal Navy takes security and nuclear safety extremely seriously and we are fully investigating both the issue of the unauthorised release of this document and its contents.

                "The naval service operates its submarine fleet under the most stringent safety regime and submarines do not go to sea unless they are completely safe to do so."

                The spokesman also said the Navy "completely disagreed" with Mr McNeilly's report, claiming that it "contains a number of subjective and unsubstantiated personal views, made by a very junior sailor".

                However, they added that it was "right" that the contents of the document were considered in detail.

                The SNP's Westminster leader Angus Robertson said the report read as "a nightmare catalogue of serious safety breaches aboard and alongside these nuclear-armed submarines" and called for the Ministry of Defence to make public the results of its investigation.

                He added: "Failure to follow standard safety procedures is unacceptable in any workplace but on a Vanguard submarine on patrol it could result in extreme tragedy not just for those on board but indeed for the entire planet."
                "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

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                • #9
                  I can't help reading this whistle blower account and thinking of this incident.
                  A Royal Navy serviceman who shot dead a senior officer on board a nuclear submarine is jailed for life and told he must serve at least 25 years in prison.
                  For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                  • #10
                    RN submariners are viewed by many as being a little weird.

                    Particularly the bomber types for some reason.
                    'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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                    • #11
                      I cant imagine why...

                      Attn ropebag, empty your inbox!

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