Why when there are existing simulators in NMCI which would be far more cost effective?
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Originally posted by A/TEL View PostP31 will not last another 25 years. Her hull and systems are outdated and engines are on their last legs.
The money is simply not available to support 10 seagoing ships.
I do agree it should be retained alongside as a training ship, similar to the RN training ship HMS Bristol.
It could then last 25 years easily enough, Just turn her around every year for a clean and drydock her every 4-5 years.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostWhy when there are existing simulators in NMCI which would be far more cost effective?
While the ship is there, use it as a floating classroom, equipped with the same equipment sensors and systems found on all other naval vessels.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostSimulators can only go so far. Nothing beats having an actual ship under your feet when you are learning basic seamanship. Same is true for all branches. NMCI is set up mainly for the Merchant marine, but many of the systems NS trainees would be expected to use are unique to the NS.
While the ship is there, use it as a floating classroom, equipped with the same equipment sensors and systems found on all other naval vessels.
What use would it be tied up permanently? Take it out and put it ashore and then you don’t have to deal with the upkeep of the hull etc?
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Originally posted by DeV View PostNever been in it but it is a joint venture including the NS so why not (or at the Naval College).
What use would it be tied up permanently? Take it out and put it ashore and then you don’t have to deal with the upkeep of the hull etc?
The RN refurbished HMS Bristol , a destroyer, and use her and two MCV's as static training ships. I would prefer to do that than sell our ships into a market of unknown eventual owners. Ships are NOT routinely "put ashore". The only downside I can see is provision of a permanent berth and dealing with the disposal of the contents of her Sewage Tank. Everything costs money and so would this. The big advantage is the ship and it's systems are real and will be transferable to operational ships.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostNever been in it but it is a joint venture including the NS so why not (or at the Naval College).
What use would it be tied up permanently? Take it out and put it ashore and then you don’t have to deal with the upkeep of the hull etc?For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostAFAIK No pints or alcohol are routinely available ashore or afloat except by specific authorisation by higher authority for a sanctioned occasion.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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It goes without saying that unless they retire beforehand, the person who holds the post of OCNOC usually becomes FOCNS, once the post becomes Vacant.
Capt Ken Minehane has been appointed OCNOC. Not that he would have time to read this, but if he does I wish him well in his new appointment.
Capt Minehane's past appointments include first OC of L.E. Samuel Beckett, and OC of L.E Niamh on her Journey to South America in 2010 and her Participation in the Rescue mission in the Mediterranean, and was twice OC of L.E Orla.
Since Joining the NS in the late 80s he has also held appointments at sea as Nav Officer on L.E. Eithne, Gunnery Officer on L.E Ciara and L. E Aisling and Executive officer on L.E. Aoife.
Ashore as well as holding the post of OC FMC he has also served overseas with the UN on 2 occasions in Liberia.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View Posthttps://twitter.com/naval_service/st...95612150259712
It goes without saying that unless they retire beforehand, the person who holds the post of OCNOC usually becomes FOCNS, once the post becomes Vacant.
Capt Ken Minehane has been appointed OCNOC. Not that he would have time to read this, but if he does I wish him well in his new appointment.
Capt Minehane's past appointments include first OC of L.E. Samuel Beckett, and OC of L.E Niamh on her Journey to South America in 2010 and her Participation in the Rescue mission in the Mediterranean, and was twice OC of L.E Orla.
Since Joining the NS in the late 80s he has also held appointments at sea as Nav Officer on L.E. Eithne, Gunnery Officer on L.E Ciara and L. E Aisling and Executive officer on L.E. Aoife.
Ashore as well as holding the post of OC FMC he has also served overseas with the UN on 2 occasions in Liberia.
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Originally posted by A/TEL View Post
Except the last time when OCNSC then Capt Malone was appointed FOCNS ahead of OCNOC Capt Fitzgerald.
Who is OCNSC now? It was 2 years ago when the past holder was due to retire, and I think he was in same cadet class as current FOCNS. Old DF website used to have this info.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by A/TEL View Post
Except the last time when OCNSC then Capt Malone was appointed FOCNS ahead of OCNOC Capt Fitzgerald.
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