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    The last FCA men who served in places like Gormanstown in the 70's when the refugees came south will be going soon I think... Places like Ballymullen were used up until not too long ago
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Gormanston is an active barracks
    Used by both PDF and RDF elements of the 27 Bn
    Has a decent 300m range
    has accomodation for a few platoons
    Is a Recruit training barracks
    Has countries only (or one of the only) fixed wing Air to Surface rocket and gunnery ranges
    Has countries only (or one of the only) Surface to Air and artillery ranges
    Houses the Irish aviation authorities main accident investigation unit
    has a good 25m pistol range
    has an armoury
    Has a decent outdoor training area, assault course, gym and all other sunrdy requirements for a barracks
    Is regularly used by other units of the defence forces for training
    Is used by other emergency services for training courses etc
    Has great potential

    It doesn't have the basic facilities like plumbing and sewerage and electricity and accomodation to house 5000 people in need.
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    • #3
      I noticed the main gate to Magee Bks, Kildare open wide yesterday. Probably being assessed for refugees. Given the dilapidated condition of what was one of the finest barracks in the country in its day, it would not be fit now to house anyone. When refugees were housed there some years ago they parked mobile homes on the square, but its in much worse condition now.

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      • #4
        Put your foot down on this lads, speak up or forever hold your peace. If you lose one decent barracks, you'll be on the back foot forever more. You've plenty of representative organisations, make them earn their money. It's the defence forces, not the government's general goods, sundries and services dept.

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        • #5
          What are Longford and Cavan currently being used for?

          Had heard that Mullingar was being used by AGS, Customs, etc but I assume that would be a relatively small area depending on what training they are doing there.

          Sure there probably isn't enough accommodation to house 5000 DF personnel!!

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          • #6
            Spike/Fort Mitchell.

            Civil defence had put homeless beds up in the Esplanade IIRC

            Is clonmel bks gone yet. Parkgate and Colaiste are taken by other orgs at the moment ...
            "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

            "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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            • #7
              Clonmel no longer belongs to the DoD and has several users at the moment. The accommodation there is not suitable for habitation for years.
              Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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              • #8
                Is Spike not being developed as a tourist attraction?
                "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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                • #9
                  Is Spike not being developed as a tourist attraction?
                  nothing has changed really ... was down a few months ago for an Orienteering event

                  Put tents up on the main square and you could house loads and loads and loads.
                  "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                  "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                  • #10
                    There was 'people' up assessing Gormanston camp recently.

                    This open door policy towards this refugee crisis is easily one of the most stupid and short sighted thing I have ever witnessed. People and politicians are falling over themselves to see who can come out with the most PC statement. Do they not realize that by agreeing to take in 'as many as possible' all they're doing is encouraging more people to make a dangerous crossing thereby causing more deaths?

                    I'm all for helping people but it needs to be done in a controlled manner not just in a f*ckin free for all that's currently taking place.

                    Already we're starting to see problems from this policy and it's only going to get worse.
                    To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
                      Clonmel no longer belongs to the DoD and has several users at the moment. The accommodation there is not suitable for habitation for years.
                      I stayed in it in 2011

                      Originally posted by trellheim View Post
                      nothing has changed really ... was down a few months ago for an Orienteering event

                      Put tents up on the main square and you could house loads and loads and loads.
                      Couple of hundred individuals for a few weeks but not hundreds of families for months to years

                      Originally posted by HavocIRL View Post
                      There was 'people' up assessing Gormanston camp recently.

                      This open door policy towards this refugee crisis is easily one of the most stupid and short sighted thing I have ever witnessed. People and politicians are falling over themselves to see who can come out with the most PC statement. Do they not realize that by agreeing to take in 'as many as possible' all they're doing is encouraging more people to make a dangerous crossing thereby causing more deaths?

                      I'm all for helping people but it needs to be done in a controlled manner not just in a f*ckin free for all that's currently taking place.

                      Already we're starting to see problems from this policy and it's only going to get worse.
                      +1



                      Is refugee status permanent or can people be deported/returned when it is safe?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DeV View Post

                        Is refugee status permanent or can people be deported/returned when it is safe?
                        Does it matter? Lets face facts, once they're here they ain't leaving. This idea that some people seem to have that we'll only have to look after them until the Syrian civil war ends is deluded.

                        These people are going to be going from refugees to Asylum seekers to wards of the state(for want of a better phrase) to naturalized Irish citizens so fast it will make your head spin. And right now a lot of them are refusing to even have their name taken at border crossings......

                        As it stands now we have no idea who is coming into our country because THEY have resisted, in some cases violently, to be registered in any form....

                        and the government wants to house them in Military installations........
                        To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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                        • #13
                          During that time: Canada will not airlift refugees without proper security screening

                          Stephen Harper says the government is looking to improve the refugee resettlement process, but it will not airlift thousands of refugees from countries such as Syria and Iraq, where extremist organizations operate, without conducting a proper security screening.

                          "To help, we must ensure we screen every potential refugee carefully. We have been clear that we are willing to take more people, but we must be sure we are helping the most vulnerable.

                          "We cannot open the floodgates and airlift tens of thousands of refugees out of a terrorist war zone without proper process. That is too great a risk for Canada,"
                          "On the plains of hesitation, bleach the bones of countless millions, who on the very dawn of victory, laid down to rest, and in resting died.

                          Never give up!!"

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                          • #14
                            And the knock on effect will be of course that a solution to reducing the amount of people in the Irish asylum system and any resources to reduce/eliminate direct provision will disappear

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                            • #15
                              I stayed in it in 2011
                              And its still crap, not suitable for habitation long term. Given it hasn't been used in 4 years it can only have gotten worse!
                              Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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