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"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
Doing as you describe would provide exponentially more bad PR to the DF than the few Exers and FCA/RDF Bods slagging them.
The whole mingy medal thing undermines the value of medals earned by those entitled to medals for actions campaigns etc.
To see purchased medals worn along side awarded medals is annoying to say the least.
As for having a chip on my shoulder. No.
I was awarded that which I was entitled to . It has no significance other than I showed up for a mandatory amount of years. It wasn't even based on the quantity or quality of work carried out in that time, and I don't feel the need to display that commitment in public while wearing a beret and blazer .
I do firmly believe that the awards are being undermined by anyone with enough money being able 5o equip themselves in the form of a North Korean admiral with enough tin for a Bullet proof vest and parading along side serving members of the DF and to make it worse claiming to represent those who have served just to make themselves look good.
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That wan't directed at you murph and i couldn't agree more with your last comment.
"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
Only because they are being enabled by others who are willing to hand out the tin and let them wear it in conjunction with the real thing.
I have no doubt some serving sergeant majors attending parades with the tin wearers would love an opportunity to sto correct matters pertaining to medals wearing but lack the power to do so.
Again I say it. Those parading at state events and in barracks should only wear DF / UN or awards made while serving in other forces medals.
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How so? Please elaborate on how your cynicism and negativity implies that us black hats(sorry I forgot you have them as well now) are somehow oppressing you?
You are the one referring to yourself as a bagger. No one else is. If you don't like wearing part of the uniform you know where the door is.
"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
Dunno lads, some of the scraps on this board are worthy of a campaign medal.
Yeah but would there be a medal for all contributors or just those doing the sapping. .should there be service medals with bars for surviving re launches of the board.
Very few here from day one...in fact I'm probably the only one. Do I get a medal?
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Get a couple of thousand likes on IKON and you are game on Murph
Personally I am sick of the naysaying on this issue.The powers that be have finally decided to issue a medal recognising the service to the state of the DF since 1916.Now,wheater that's peoples individual cup of tea is their own business.But bitching and whinging about a medal that hasn't even gone on issue yet is f***ing bullshit.
People wanted a medal.We got one.
People wanted the PDF AND RDF to be issued it.We got that.
Will it be only for sitting on your mantlepiece for passing down to your kids and hopefully theirs or will we get to wear it.Who knows yet.Who feckin cares!
Moaning on an internet forum about something that hasn't even happened yet and blaming it on the PDF as some kind of great conspiracy is paddy the Pig at his best/worst.
At least wait till after the event to whinge!!(probably about having to get them mounted)
"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
Ah Jayus Murph, go easy. What, another medal for the baggers? Three medals? The pram, the playpen, not to mention the toys.
Over Easter we were asked what the flash represented. Hear are some of the printable answers:
It's the Irish for Commando.
It's an insecurity patch for the PDF, bit like a comfort blanket.
When you reach twelve medals you get the flash so you don't look like a N Korean general.
I'm sure Truck Driver can guess who was involved
Sorry no. Could be anyone of several suspects I can think of. One being an individual who is prone to putting his (large) feet in it...
"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
Given the DF sees the volunteers to be the founders of the Army and a medal has been decided on yes let it be. But only to those who were in the service at the year in question be they PDF or RDF. ..
That would be my only criteria on the issue.
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How so? Please elaborate on how your cynicism and negativity implies that us black hats(sorry I forgot you have them as well now) are somehow oppressing you?
You are the one referring to yourself as a bagger. No one else is. If you don't like wearing part of the uniform you know where the door is.
How so? Look at your reaction to a minor windup. Part of the slagging that went on over Easter with no mention of ketchup or doors and to reassure you there were no toys damaged either.
Never said anything about being oppressed. I don't regard waiting 26 years for a medal as being oppressed. It could be considered disrespectful, I just choose to treat it in the same manner that it was issued. I don't consider wearing a flash as being oppressed. I've worn the half jacket, maroon epaulettes, FCA flash, green beret. The flash is just another version. In fact, I'm proud to wear it because it shows, that's if anyone is really interested, I'm a reservist.
As regards the word bagger, I use it as a term of endearment.
I'm not a number, I'm a free man.
Who is number 1?
How so? Look at your reaction to a minor windup. Part of the slagging that went on over Easter with no mention of ketchup or doors and to reassure you there were no toys damaged either.
Bollox. You have made yourself crystal clear and are now trying to back track.You have some kind of chip on your shoulder RE the PDF.Tough.My reaction is down to the constant negativity and constant lets blame the PDF for everything attitude that yourself and some other here constantly espouse.Lately I read more than I post as it is getting increasingly frustrating to debate the same old BS coming from some posters here.Complaining about something before it has even happened and pointing the finger is whinging at best and childish at worst.Cop on.
As regards the word bagger, I use it as a term of endearment.
Nobody uses the word bagger as a term of endearment.It is a derogatory term used to disparage a fine group of people who do the best they can with the training and equipment they have.If you were black would you describe yourself as a n****r? I think not.
Instead of being a child and knocking what should be something good how about dropping the cynicism and "windups" and get behind this.You might surprise yourself.
"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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