Thanks Thanks:  139
Likes Likes:  324
Dislikes Dislikes:  4
Page 11 of 12 FirstFirst ... 9101112 LastLast
Results 251 to 275 of 285

Thread: Pilatus PC-9M

  1. #251
    Private 3*
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    265
    Post Thanks / Like
    And while all that was going on Air Corps 112 was into Galway Hospital from Knock and carried out other transfers, proud of our Defence Forces well done all

  2. Thanks sofa thanked for this post
    Likes Rhodes, DeV, sofa, Flamingo, ias, Shaqra liked this post
  3. #252
    Brigadier General
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    2,783
    Post Thanks / Like
    "Sunday's opener at Bray Air Display was Emerald, a formation flight with Irish Air Corps' Team Silver and an Aer Lingus A320."


  4. Thanks Flamingo, DeV, meridian, Orion thanked for this post
    Likes DeV, meridian, Orion liked this post
  5. #253
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    119
    Post Thanks / Like
    Cool video above

    Just briefly back to Adriatic Strike 2019, AFM August 2019 mentions Ireland as a observer too. Short article on it this year, think there was a more in depth article on last years exercise in said magazine last year.

  6. Thanks DeV thanked for this post
  7. #254
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    119
    Post Thanks / Like
    Twitter mention by the OC Air Corps College of a possible change of paint scheme to similar to the PC12 in the future, nice! Would make a nice addition to the updates planned for the PC9 (TCAS and EGPWS noted in the DF Capability Development Plan).

    * https://twitter.com/OC_ACCollege/sta...92152270770177

  8. Thanks DeV thanked for this post
  9. #255
    Commander in Chief
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    7,726
    Post Thanks / Like
    It would be nice if all our fixed wing were the same colour(s). No reason why they couldn't be.
    Someone (who isn't colourblind) should use their photoshop skilz to show us what that would look like.
    Keep the roundel though (in some format).

    We managed to get all our helis one colour.
    Last edited by na grohmiti; 14th January 2021 at 16:13.
    German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
    German 2: Private? I am a general!
    German 1: That is the bad news.

  10. #256
    C/S
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    7,159
    Post Thanks / Like
    The advantage of painting them a darker grey is that they would be more visible. Right now,PC-9s are very hard to see against a cloudy background. You can hear them from miles away but they are very hard to spot. That's the upside. The downside is that there are always better things to spend money on, than paint, the TCAS and EGPWS being of rather more utility and a pressing need than a coat of paint. Paint is , of course, important for it's function of preventing corrosion of the metal and non-metal surfaces and rather more of a priority than just painting the things for fashion's sake. How about painting them green, to remind the Army that the Air Corps cares about them;-)

  11. Likes DeV, Orion liked this post
  12. #257
    Commander in Chief
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    7,726
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    The advantage of painting them a darker grey is that they would be more visible. Right now,PC-9s are very hard to see against a cloudy background. You can hear them from miles away but they are very hard to spot. That's the upside. The downside is that there are always better things to spend money on, than paint, the TCAS and EGPWS being of rather more utility and a pressing need than a coat of paint. Paint is , of course, important for it's function of preventing corrosion of the metal and non-metal surfaces and rather more of a priority than just painting the things for fashion's sake. How about painting them green, to remind the Army that the Air Corps cares about them;-)
    I'm sure the next time they go for a repaint a new colour scheme can be applied without breaking the bank.
    German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
    German 2: Private? I am a general!
    German 1: That is the bad news.

  13. Likes GoneToTheCanner, Orion liked this post
  14. #258
    Private 3*
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    265
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    It would be nice if all our fixed wing were the same colour(s). No reason why they couldn't be.
    Someone (who isn't colourblind) should use their photoshop skilz to show us what that would look like.
    Keep the roundel though (in some format).

    We managed to get all our helis one colour.
    https://twitter.com/Rotorblur/status...41848856080387

    https://twitter.com/Rotorblur/status...41801691176963

    https://twitter.com/Rotorblur/status...35842221920256

  15. Thanks DeV thanked for this post
    Likes na grohmiti, Truck Driver liked this post
  16. #259
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    238
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    It would be nice if all our fixed wing were the same colour(s). No reason why they couldn't be.
    Someone (who isn't colourblind) should use their photoshop skilz to show us what that would look like.
    Keep the roundel though (in some format).

    We managed to get all our helis one colour.
    There's quite a few anoraks on social media getting very upset over the lack of roundels on the PC12. I don't get the obsession myself.

    Also. Stand by your bunk for a colour change to the rotary fleet. Unsurprisingly, it's not green. More akin to the new Spanish NH90s.

  17. #260
    Commander in Chief apod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Ass in the grass.
    Posts
    5,652
    Post Thanks / Like
    There's quite a few anoraks on social media getting very upset over the lack of roundels on the PC12.
    Any official reason as to why they were omitted?? Less visible from below when on a surveillance tasking??
    Also. Stand by your bunk for a colour change to the rotary fleet. Unsurprisingly, it's not green. More akin to the new Spanish NH90s.
    Couldn't have green Helis doing SAR now could we????
    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

  18. #261
    Captain Truck Driver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Here And There...
    Posts
    10,670
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    I'm sure the next time they go for a repaint a new colour scheme can be applied without breaking the bank.
    Read somewhere a figure of €60k being mentioned for an aircraft paint job?
    Might have been for an airliner though, can't remember the context
    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

  19. Likes CTU liked this post
  20. #262
    Commander in Chief
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    7,726
    Post Thanks / Like
    German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
    German 2: Private? I am a general!
    German 1: That is the bad news.

  21. #263
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    238
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Any official reason as to why they were omitted?? Less visible from below when on a surveillance tasking??


    Couldn't have green Helis doing SAR now could we????
    I can't imagine it was a visibility issue for the ISR role but who knows. An easy compromise wouldve been to have subdued roundels which wouldnt have required much work but it wasn't chosen. The good idea fairy will come out eventually.

    The SAR hype train is in full swing. It's being pushed hard on social media and plenty of ex-ers, most of whom were never involved in it whatsoever so make of that what you will. Just proves the white paper isn't worth the paper its written on.

  22. Likes na grohmiti, CTU, GoneToTheCanner, apod liked this post
  23. #264
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    238
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Read somewhere a figure of €60k being mentioned for an aircraft paint job?
    Might have been for an airliner though, can't remember the context
    Not sure of the cost but depending on the maintenance schedule it can be a convenient time to paint while the airframe is partly dismantled.

    While it serves a purpose for corrosion as already stated. There's no benefit to a single color fleet really. Its all about the 'corporate branding'.

  24. #265
    Moderator DeV's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    24,026
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Any official reason as to why they were omitted?? Less visible from below when on a surveillance tasking??
    Read somewhere that they are on the underside

  25. #266
    Commander in Chief
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    7,726
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    There's quite a few anoraks on social media getting very upset over the lack of roundels on the PC12. I don't get the obsession myself.

    Also. Stand by your bunk for a colour change to the rotary fleet. Unsurprisingly, it's not green. More akin to the new Spanish NH90s.
    Very Naval looking.
    German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
    German 2: Private? I am a general!
    German 1: That is the bad news.

  26. #267
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    238
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Very Naval looking.
    If only we had some ships for them to land on.

    Proper ships, which are designed and built to have organic heli assets. Not the token effort thats mooted for the MRV.

  27. Likes na grohmiti, The real Jack, Graylion liked this post
  28. #268
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    238
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Read somewhere that they are on the underside
    Don't believe all you read.

  29. Thanks DeV thanked for this post
    Likes na grohmiti liked this post
  30. #269
    C/S
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    7,159
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Read somewhere a figure of €60k being mentioned for an aircraft paint job?
    Might have been for an airliner though, can't remember the context
    An A320 repaint. I might have mentioned it.

  31. Thanks Truck Driver thanked for this post
  32. #270
    C/S
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    7,159
    Post Thanks / Like
    An awful lot of the repaint cost is in the preparation such as the protection of transparencies, the stripping of old paints and decals and the sheer amount of hands-on manhours involved in sanding and pre-paint work. Even a relatively small aircraft like a PC-9 takes quite a bit of time to prep. A lot of airliner and business jet painting is really "wrapping", like fitting van decals and a huge amount of time is devoted, after painting or wrapping, on getting the multitude of decals back on correctly, especially all the warning and cautionary decals on the openable panels. It's not something you decide to do lightly,as it could take a month to paint an aircraft, if you go for actual paint and even a couple of weeks for a "wrap".

  33. Thanks Flamingo thanked for this post
  34. #271
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    168
    Post Thanks / Like

  35. #272
    Chief Casey Ryback
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,466
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
    OK, I'm blocked by them...and I don't know why...
    Were you at the insurrection in Washington DC by any chance .
    Last edited by Laners; 15th January 2021 at 11:53.
    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

  36. Likes Flamingo, Truck Driver, sofa, Rocinante liked this post
  37. #273
    Commander in Chief
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    7,726
    Post Thanks / Like
    Some people have settings to avoid views by those without profile pictures etc.
    German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
    German 2: Private? I am a general!
    German 1: That is the bad news.

  38. Thanks ias thanked for this post
  39. #274
    CQMS
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    168
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Laners View Post
    Were you at the insurrection in Washington DC by any chance .
    Ah...looks around.....no?

  40. Likes Flamingo liked this post
  41. #275
    Recruit
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Baltinglass
    Posts
    649
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Any official reason as to why they were omitted?? Less visible from below when on a surveillance tasking??


    Couldn't have green Helis doing SAR now could we????
    But why blue? SAR should be dayglo orange

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •