Interesting that they want to widen out the supply chains, would have though the main driver would be to limit the extra costs and training paths that the 31's would need just to save overheads for the RN. I mean the Combat System is going to be a Thales system rather than the fleet wide BAE one as well from what I've read, and they aren't pulling through the Artisan Radar Sets either?
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostFrigate Factory Being Built on the Clyde. It appears tey think the Irish NS will want one, if only we had the crew...
https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/bri...igate-factory/
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So the US Navy has also now decided on its next frigate, a version of the Italian FREMM
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...e-competition/
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostTo be honest, there's not really anything to that other than the Babcock team coming over to Dublin to the Embassy, but really I don't see how the Type 31 would be what the MPV/EPV would be needed, and the price tag is another issue.
The major cost of the T31 will prob be sensor suite and weapons fit.
It would easily fit the budget of €200m without the RN requirement of sensors and weapons, however it doesn't really fit the RFI specs issued a few years back.
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Originally posted by A/TEL View PostThe major cost of the T31 will prob be sensor suite and weapons fit.
It would easily fit the budget of €200m without the RN requirement of sensors and weapons, however it doesn't really fit the RFI specs issued a few years back.Last edited by ias; 2 May 2020, 14:36.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostSo the US Navy has also now decided on its next frigate, a version of the Italian FREMM
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...e-competition/
This ship comes in just over 150m, just 4m shorter than the Burke Class destroyer.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostDemonstrating the total failure of the Littoral concept, and zero confidence in US designs. The USN for too long were dictated to by the US shipbuilding industry, providing them with lots of ships with a 30 year old design, delivered late. Too big to operate in confined waters, i.e the type of waters where they would be needed most. The Average USN Destroyer, its smallest major warship, is almost the same size as HMS Belfast, which was a light cruiser.
This ship comes in just over 150m, just 4m shorter than the Burke Class destroyer.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostIt is a common size today, around the 8000 tons mark, the Burkes are a bit heavier, the Type 26 are around the same size, the Australian variant of the Type 26 will push 9000 tons. It is the problem when you want the ship to do everything, AAW, ASW, ASuW………. While steel is cheap, crews are not and a larger ship requires a larger crew, even if only for damage control. In fact the classification as frigate or destroyer is interchangeable, for one man it is a frigate, for another a destroyer.
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The RN has announced today the first 5 ships in class (from hereon to be known as Inspiration class)will be named as follows.- Active
- Bulldog
- Campbeltown
- Formidable
- Venture
For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostThe RN has announced today the first 5 ships in class (from hereon to be known as Inspiration class)will be named as follows.- Active
- Bulldog
- Campbeltown
- Formidable
- Venture
'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins
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Originally posted by spider View Post
Great to see Campbeltown again...the WW2 Campbeltown's Skipper was a VC winner.
Not only did it keep Tirpitz out of the Atlantic for good, it also focused the Nazi war effort on the Atlantic wall.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
The Campbeltown story itself is one that should have far more significance in the history of WW2, given what was achieved, and the ultimate cost. As significant as the Dambusters raid perhaps, but without the faff.
Not only did it keep Tirpitz out of the Atlantic for good, it also focused the Nazi war effort on the Atlantic wall.
Just a thought but the St Nazaire raid happened at a time when the war in Europe was limited to raids...
Maybe... the focus at that time was in N Africa and the Far East...or The Battle of the Atlantic...St Nazaire important as it was just got treated as an after-thought.'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostThe RN has announced today the first 5 ships in class (from hereon to be known as Inspiration class)will be named as follows.- Active
- Bulldog
- Campbeltown
- Formidable
- Venture
More info on the above.
Why does this thread keep vanishing?For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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