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In most places there are on base retailer such as Naafi to provide such items at a fair price.
Templemore used to have this too. You could buy asics runners blackthorn shoes and shoe polish from the canteen for a fraction of the normal retail price.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostIn most places there are on base retailer such as Naafi to provide such items at a fair price.
Templemore used to have this too. You could buy asics runners blackthorn shoes and shoe polish from the canteen for a fraction of the normal retail price.
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Originally posted by Auldsod View PostI do remember the shock off a few new-entrants in my first week in when we were expected to head straight to Dunnes and buy polish, shoe brushes and cleaning products for our accommodation. In saying that, a lot of what we needed was on the joining instructions (with the exception of the need for brasso and bottles of flash) but we hadn't even been paid yet. seems to be done thing in other countries too though.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostI got an issue boot cleaning kit (brushes, 1 tin of polish, scrubbing brush in a little DF bag) before going on a cse
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Just a reminder that 500 x 2-bed apartments could be built on Defence Forces property for €110 Million. Just over half an Multi rôle vessel. (Discount VAT, sale cost, contributions etc). If the capital budget was targeted at supporting the Defence Forces greatest asset - People, this could become a reality in less that 3 years.
2 bed apartment would be able to accommodate range of both single and family types (2 x singles, married couple + one child, married couple + two young children)
Obviously a range of 2/3/4/6 bedroom apartment types would be better.
Rent based on 30% median average industrial salary of €30,000, would mean €110 million would be paid back in less than 25 years.
Post 25 year payback, the rental income would pay for 20 new 2-bed apartments per year.
Before anyone gets started on interest, the state is borrowing at zero percent interest over 10 years.
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Originally posted by TangoSierra View PostJust a reminder that 500 x 2-bed apartments could be built on Defence Forces property for €110 Million. Just over half an Multi rôle vessel. (Discount VAT, sale cost, contributions etc). If the capital budget was targeted at supporting the Defence Forces greatest asset - People, this could become a reality in less that 3 years.
2 bed apartment would be able to accommodate range of both single and family types (2 x singles, married couple + one child, married couple + two young children)
Obviously a range of 2/3/4/6 bedroom apartment types would be better.
Rent based on 30% median average industrial salary of €30,000, would mean €110 million would be paid back in less than 25 years.
Post 25 year payback, the rental income would pay for 20 new 2-bed apartments per year.
Before anyone gets started on interest, the state is borrowing at zero percent interest over 10 years.
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It would be much easier to deal with serving troops than homeless. None of the issues around mental health / addiction / unemployment / low income associated with some homeless, rent taken at source, disciplinary action can be taken over damage to property by occupants, hygiene and cleanliness standards can be enforced...'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Originally posted by DeV View PostWe can’t do it for homeless people
For private housing, again in the late 40's and 50's you had NATO ( National Asscn Of Tenants) whereby a group of people would undertake to buy a particular avenue , or drive of houses. It was how we were housed ,after my father left the Army in 1948, at Seapark Drive Clontarf.
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The building program that provided development of what would now be considered social housing in 1950s ireland has served us well. They were exceptionally well built, and recent modifications to most have made them very energy efficient homes. My sister owns one, a good friend another. Both required little in the way of extra insulation, the hardest job being trying to do anything involving the rock solid walls. It would make a good long term infrastructure investment for the state to invest in similar modern energy efficient homes.
Apartment blocks, have been shown not to be a long term solution.
However, for the defence forces, to house its young soldiers and their young families, a combination of apartment and duplex developments would be suitable.
It annoyed me somewhat when the former married quarters, built when the British Army operated Sarsfield barracks, were let go derelict, before being unloaded on a developer who turned them into social housing. These could have been homes for employees of that barracks, instead of homes for those outside the fence.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostThe building program that provided development of what would now be considered social housing in 1950s ireland has served us well. They were exceptionally well built, and recent modifications to most have made them very energy efficient homes. My sister owns one, a good friend another. Both required little in the way of extra insulation, the hardest job being trying to do anything involving the rock solid walls. It would make a good long term infrastructure investment for the state to invest in similar modern energy efficient homes.
Apartment blocks, have been shown not to be a long term solution.
However, for the defence forces, to house its young soldiers and their young families, a combination of apartment and duplex developments would be suitable.
It annoyed me somewhat when the former married quarters, built when the British Army operated Sarsfield barracks, were let go derelict, before being unloaded on a developer who turned them into social housing. These could have been homes for employees of that barracks, instead of homes for those outside the fence.
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On a bit of lateral thinking (and using the "Adapt, Improvise, Overcome" concept so familiar to us all), has there ever been any consideration to members of the forces setting up a Housing Association? I
It would be a way for the people who need the housing to take control of the issue, keeping politician's and civil servants at arms length.
'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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