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  • That's the thing;there was always a spare aircraft around for a pilot to keep his or her hours up, even a jet provost or a J31 or something rotary. These days,a pilot would have a to mortgage a kidney to find a spare aircraft.

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    • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
      That's the thing;there was always a spare aircraft around for a pilot to keep his or her hours up, even a jet provost or a J31 or something rotary. These days,a pilot would have a to mortgage a kidney to find a spare aircraft.
      It is very easy to evolve systems and procedures that will ensure few will make the grade .If the course is designed around the unique then results will reflect that pushing up costs per pilot and producing very few of those. Where do rotary pilots come from?

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      • Greece have signed contracts for 6 new and 12 second hand French AF Rafales, plus 4.5 years of support and weapons

        Greece’s acquisition of 18 Dassault Rafale multi-role fighters from France marked a major milestone on January 25 after the nation’s government signed three contracts covering the aircraft order, associated support services and munitions


        €2.5 billion

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        • A Bargain. A fine aircraft too.
          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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          • A £30m government contract will help support 100 jobs at Spirit AeroSystems in Belfast.


            I saw this article, Bombadier in Belfast are looking at making the wings for a drone fighter plane. Long-term, would this concept be worth considering?



            I know the current development is for something to fly in tandem with a fast jet, but these concepts can develop quite quickly.
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              • Originally posted by apc View Post
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                linky no worky.
                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                • Originally posted by Anzac View Post

                  Indeed Dev. Disruption and disinformation are the key words. You may find this Canadian Global Affairs Institute perspective interesting as it relates directly to what has been unfolding off the west coast of Ireland.



                  Here is a precis of it.

                  The modernization of Russia’s armed forces must thus be seen in the context of a new form of complex strategic coercion that employs systematic pressure across 5Ds: disinformation, destabilization, disruption, deception and implied destruction. Russia’s strategic goal is to conduct a continuous low-level war at the seams of democratic societies, and on the margins of both the EU and NATO, to create implicit spheres of influence where little or no such influence would otherwise exist. In the worst case, complex strategic coercion would be used to mask Russian force concentrations prior to any attack on NATO and EU states from above the Arctic Circle and Norway’s North Cape in the north, through the Baltic States and Black Sea region and into the southeastern Mediterranean. The strategy’s enduring method is to use the implicit threat of force to keep the Western allies permanently off-balance, strategically, politically and militarily, and thus to offset any innate advantages afforded Western leaders by either their forces or resources.

                  In that context one would start to get a little worried if at some stage TU-214R's with their standoff EW, ELINT and SIGINT capabilities start appearing on a regular basis even a couple of hundred kilometres off the Irish Coast.
                  Former Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger has resigned from the Commission on the Future of the Media.

                  Rusbridger had come under pressure as a result of the recent admission by the former Guardian columnist Roy Greenslade that he had been a supporter of the IRA while working for the paper.


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                  • back to the subject. Since Russian bombers tend to come down around Scotland, shoeld we not be basing QRA fighters in Letterkenny (or after a border poll in Derry)?

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                    • After a border poll perhaps Derry or maybe even Sligo airport, which has an underutilised facility already in place. Letterkenny air strip is too short and mainly used by microlights. There was talk years ago of building an airport a few km's from the town but nothing ever happened given that Derry airport was 25 minutes away and Carrickfinn airport 40 minutes.

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                      • So the new kid the KF-21 has arrived on the block.
                        The Koreans have finally rolled out their new KF-21 their 4.5gen fighter, no a bad looking aircraft. If the price is right this should give the Gripen a run for its money.

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                        • Looks like an F35 without the bullsht.
                          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                          • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                            So the new kid the KF-21 has arrived on the block.
                            The Koreans have finally rolled out their new KF-21 their 4.5gen fighter, no a bad looking aircraft. If the price is right this should give the Gripen a run for its money.
                            https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...genous-fighter
                            A fair bit bigger than the Gripen. But yes, looks very very interesting. Cost will be a massive factor, but I agree, this could soak up quite a few exports.

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                            • Ok, who is building a kit plane in their back garden?


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                              It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
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                              It was the year everything changed.

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                              • Sometimes, wen you make aircraft models, you need as much detail of the real thing as possible to get it right....
                                The irony here is if an individual did it it would be at best a long time in jail. When corporate America does it? A fine they will write off for tax purposes...
                                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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