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  • Would the soon to be replaced Patriot batteries be a runner here?

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    • The majority of peacetime intercepts involve flying alongside and visually identifying errant aircraft or simply providing a wake up call to flight crew in a lost comms event. Even in the unlikely event of an actual military incursion inside the 12 mile limit, it is unlikely a shoot down would be the first course of action.

      A Patriot is of little use in the middle ground that has to exist between a deterrent and a full blown shoot down.

      It is also a highly complex and expensive system to own, maintain and operate. Plus the Scud threat is low in this neck of the woods.

      (Dead link by the way)
      Last edited by Jetjock; 26 April 2017, 00:38.

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      • Missile batteries dont need pilots, runways and ATC and are in the business of shooting down rather than talking down hostile intruders.

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        • Originally posted by danno View Post
          Missile batteries dont need pilots, runways and ATC and are in the business of shooting down rather than talking down hostile intruders.
          Yes, but that means that we have to be committed to destroying a hostile intruder, (or a random airliner with equipment failure that doesn't answer (ask Vlad how well that played out)). And most likely the minute we did shot down a Foreign Military plane (short of WW3) then the "toys" would be removed.

          Missile Batteries aren't the answer to Air Policing and Patrolling.

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          • I agree but they they do their own thing awfully well as part of the AD envelope.

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            • Missiles are as complex as aircraft, have finite lives and use lots of those kind of people that are leaving the DF in droves...

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              • Just for some context on the matter, Bulgaria just signed for 8 Gripens at a cost of €850 million.

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                • Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
                  Just for some context on the matter, Bulgaria just signed for 8 Gripens at a cost of €850 million.
                  Nothing signed yet, Saab have been announced as the preferred bidder.

                  Saab to Janes (April 26th):"We have seen the information in the media, and it is encouraging to be on top of the evaluations group's list. With that said, this is one step in an extensive process that will continue going forward."

                  Flightglobal are quoting a figure of €511m.
                  Last edited by Jetjock; 1 May 2017, 16:29.

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                  • Still, a bargain either way, given the capability offerred.
                    Presubably a replacement for the radarless Mig 29UBs.

                    Is it worth mentioning the Bulgarians also operate the Pilatus PC9?
                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • It's quickly becoming the aircraft of choice for smaller nations. Highly capable with low operating and acquisition costs.

                      Austria's lesson with the Eurofighter seems to be been wisely heeded.

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                      • I'd go so far as to say it's the obvious choice for any country that isn't in the first or second tier of defence spending.*
                        Or doesn't have defence spending because it's still living off the old imperial power and has a population which thinks the holy word "neutral" explains everything from this to why the Gardai don't have guns.

                        * Neither of which include the United States, which can be considered a separate planet for such discussions.
                        Last edited by expat01; 2 May 2017, 18:20.

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                        • Given the noise aroused by the Eu300m to be spent on a very disputed hospital, I think if we, the people, spent Eu 850m on a small bunch of fighters, there'd be flaming torches in the streets.

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                          • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                            Given the noise aroused by the Eu300m to be spent on a very disputed hospital, I think if we, the people, spent Eu 850m on a small bunch of fighters, there'd be flaming torches in the streets.
                            But we wouldn't give them to the nuns!

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                            • true, but if nuns are savvy enough to beat the Govt at every turn, then running a few fighters would be easy for them.

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                              • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                                true, but if nuns are savvy enough to beat the Govt at every turn, then running a few fighters would be easy for them.
                                Ahem.. *clears throat*

                                Clearly 8 Gripens are the minimum needed to appropriately escort Mr. Pope on his future visit.

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