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24th November 2016, 22:00 #1Lieutenant
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Soldier 2017
The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honour. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiqués are belated, insincere, incomplete.....It is a disgrace to our imperial record, and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure.We are to-day not far from a disaster.
T.E. Lawrence, 2 Aug 1920.
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25th November 2016, 21:42 #2Brigadier General
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is it the BMW 1200s that they are testing.?
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26th November 2016, 08:08 #3Commander in Chief
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FR UBACS
Originally Posted by X-RayOne
FR T-shirts
New smock
new waterproofs
new socks
new Shirt
New trousers
new boonie hatInfantry Corps - An Lámh Comhrac
"Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
-- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948
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27th November 2016, 10:48 #4Lieutenant
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pretty much all the basics then. Any hints as to major changes for the better being suggested? or just tinkering with current designs?
The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honour. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiqués are belated, insincere, incomplete.....It is a disgrace to our imperial record, and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure.We are to-day not far from a disaster.
T.E. Lawrence, 2 Aug 1920.
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27th November 2016, 13:11 #5Lt Colonel
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What's new about the trousers, smock and shirt?
I knew a simple soldier boy.....
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.
In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
And no one spoke of him again.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
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28th November 2016, 14:51 #6Commander in Chief
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check PM's Originally Posted by Buck
Infantry Corps - An Lámh Comhrac
"Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
-- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948
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29th November 2016, 00:37 #7BQMS
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Apod. I'd appreciate a pm on the difference if you can spare a lil time. Thanks 😄
Sir I cant find my peltors........Private they are on your face
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29th November 2016, 15:58 #8Sergeant Major
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Also!
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29th November 2016, 21:34 #9Lieutenant
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lol...may as well spill the beans Apod!!
The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honour. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiqués are belated, insincere, incomplete.....It is a disgrace to our imperial record, and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure.We are to-day not far from a disaster.
T.E. Lawrence, 2 Aug 1920.
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2nd December 2016, 20:37 #10Non Temetis Messor
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What happened with the boots contract in the end, did they just buy more haix?
Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.
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3rd December 2016, 14:37 #11Commander in Chief
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That's the interesting thing.there never was a new boots contract.
Infantry Corps - An Lámh Comhrac
"Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
-- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948
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16th December 2016, 22:41 #12Recruit
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Anyone get eyes on the new shirt? Are we keeping the dfi branding?
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29th December 2016, 18:03 #13Commander in Chief
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Haven't seen the proposed item yet.Tender likely in the new year.
Infantry Corps - An Lámh Comhrac
"Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
-- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948
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30th December 2016, 18:27 #14Lieutenant
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Wouldn't do any harm to follow French lead for smock design. Felin T4. A well thought out piece of kit with following details: Originally Posted by apod
CBA friendly front closure and chest pockets
integral elbow pads and pockets
underarm pit zips
detachable hood
rear external poacher pockets (especially like!!)
matching combat trousers equally well specced and thought out
Last edited by X-RayOne; 30th December 2016 at 18:34.
The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honour. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiqués are belated, insincere, incomplete.....It is a disgrace to our imperial record, and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure.We are to-day not far from a disaster.
T.E. Lawrence, 2 Aug 1920.
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30th December 2016, 19:48 #15Retired sapper
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The under arm zips are the job for ventilation.
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30th December 2016, 20:57 #16Commander in Chief
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I have had the Felin suit in my hands.Over complicated for general issue to our lads.Keep it simple stupid.
Infantry Corps - An Lámh Comhrac
"Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
-- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948
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30th December 2016, 21:29 #17Lt Colonel
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What's the craic with the above arse pockets on the smock?
I knew a simple soldier boy.....
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.
In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
And no one spoke of him again.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
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30th December 2016, 22:01 #18Commander in Chief
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The Old OG combat jacket had (internal)arse pockets on them, and became the ideal place to store all manner of noms, and personal admin stuff. Given the amount of time an infantryman spends prone on their stomach, the days of massive internal and external chest pockets must be gone.
Interesting start point.German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
German 2: Private? I am a general!
German 1: That is the bad news.
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30th December 2016, 23:06 #19Lord Chief Bottlewasher
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The OG pockets were on the inside and hence never used. I tried to several times and it never worked out
"Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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30th December 2016, 23:09 #20Commander in Chief
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Everything bar two features of the old Combat jacket was useless. Originally Posted by trellheim
The zipped chest pockets and the large rear poachers pocket that the jacket could fold into to form a handy pillow.Infantry Corps - An Lámh Comhrac
"Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
-- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948
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30th December 2016, 23:35 #21Brigadier General
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Need to ventilation, otherwise the damp/cold will wick the heat out of you when you stop moving Originally Posted by smegers
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30th December 2016, 23:52 #22Moderator
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First featured on Arktis Sniper smocks Originally Posted by Buck
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31st December 2016, 00:03 #23BQMS
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Got a Felin T4 smock off a French chap while I was overseas... Great bit of kit.
We'll never go for something like that on general issue... Too many people who never actual do any ground work would be giving out that it doesn't look good while on the square or some such nonsense.
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31st December 2016, 00:30 #24Lord Chief Bottlewasher
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That was the new OG jacket ! , the old OG smock had pockets like our current smocks. Both of them were shite when it rained or you sweatedEverything bar two features of the old Combat jacket was useless.
The zipped chest pockets and the large rear poachers pocket that the jacket could fold into to form a handy pillow.
Also since back then FCA were not issued smocks technically we could not wear them ( like barrack jackets but the PAs enforced taking them off FCA men at the barrack gate ) and so we had to do tactics in SD1 so seeing this thread is a massive bonus.."Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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31st December 2016, 12:58 #25Lieutenant
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Whats your thinking behind that Apod? Originally Posted by apod
Bearing in mind I haven't laid hands on one, it seems no different to a well designed technical mountaineering jacket, etc. Plenty of lads can use them in their civvy time perfectly well.
Plus a detachable hood, pit zips and elbow pads that will actually stay in place. Whats not to like?
Handy for keeping soft items on person all the time. Hood from the jacket, rain gear, norgie, etc.What's the craic with the above arse pockets on the smock?The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honour. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiqués are belated, insincere, incomplete.....It is a disgrace to our imperial record, and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure.We are to-day not far from a disaster.
T.E. Lawrence, 2 Aug 1920.
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