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  • #31
    Lets have a look at your comment again and see whats wrong with it shall we.
    All work and no play.
    FTT is supposed to training.Not PLAY.If your not there to TRAIN then you are in the wrong place

    there has to be a reward for Camp.
    Wrong attitude there straight away.Going on FTT should be the reward for putting in the time throughout the year.You still get paid for FTT don't you.
    that used to be the piss up ( in the dark ages ) when life was fun and you didnt take things too seriously. I like a good piss up
    Speaks volumes that does.Part of the reason that the FCA/RDF was never taken seriously in the first place.So the question is should the current organisation aspire to "take things seriously" and shake it's "Sandbags" "Fools carrying arms" label(s) or hark back to the pissheads carrying weapons and being paid to waste taxpayers time days??
    (Don't worry apc that question isn't for you but for the others here who take things "seriously")
    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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    • #32
      wha top is the CQ wearing in the last photo is it a UBACS or the walking out jacket . fk sake.


      drink ! a dash to the mess for a pint at 22:55 cos your up to your ass in work and need a sleeper - thats the life at the mo . thats been my last 3 FTTs ( or on an APC ex with no chance for pints at all but the experience is mega )

      anyone not in the same boat isnt working at the right level and someone else is double jobbing your job as well.

      I've 2 FTTS coming up - it'lll be the same, a 3rd coming up which I am GUTTED I cannot do due to time available.
      Last edited by trellheim; 28 July 2017, 11:38.
      "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

      "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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      • #33
        wha top is the CQ wearing in the last photo is it a UBACS or the walking out jacket . fk sake.
        Neither.That's the Norwegian shirt.

        In July.
        "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by trellheim View Post
          wha top is the CQ wearing in the last photo is it a UBACS or the walking out jacket . fk sake.


          drink ! a dash to the mess for a pint at 22:55 cos your up to your ass in work and need a sleeper - thats the life at the mo . thats been my last 3 FTTs ( or on an APC ex with no chance for pints at all but the experience is mega )

          anyone not in the same boat isnt working at the right level and someone else is double jobbing your job as well.

          I've 2 FTTS coming up - it'lll be the same, a 3rd coming up which I am GUTTED I cannot do due to time available.
          Likewise. My last two years of ftt were long days and after hours you only hat time to organise your kit For the following day. We always brought tea making facilities to our billet. Plenty of time for socialising after ftt. I went to do military training. Not making new drinking buddies. Bond during training. My best memory was a 3 day corps concentration ex. Two overnights in the glen. One under poncho one in vehicle. No better way to bond than share the inside of a windowless metal box for 24 hours with two others.
          The key is to keep snorers and smokers together.
          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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          • #35
            My last few Ftt blocks have been dry messes. I do think the lets go on the lash brigade have mostly gone. Not really time anymore for going to the mess at 1900.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by koppiteal View Post
              My last few Ftt blocks have been dry messes. I do think the lets go on the lash brigade have mostly gone. Not really time anymore for going to the mess at 1900.
              they shouldn't be open till 2000 hrs anyway

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              • #37
                Originally posted by koppiteal View Post
                I do think the lets go on the lash brigade have mostly gone.
                Depends on where you go - very strong in some units and locations.

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                • #38
                  Depends on where you go - very strong in some units and location
                  I haven't seen a fat camp or drinking camp in many years, although sometimes we ran them as cynical exercises as easy touches to put the people who wanted an easy touch camp but who were utterly useless and would otherwise turn up anyway on the real hardworking camp and drag everyone down. This way we could get them out of the way and no tears.

                  Sounds stupid I know but if it works
                  Last edited by trellheim; 31 July 2017, 11:08.
                  "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                  "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by trellheim View Post
                    I haven't seen a fat camp or drinking camp in many years, although sometimes we ran them as cynical exercises as easy touches to put the people who wanted an easy touch camp but who were utterly useless and would otherwise turn up anyway on the real hardworking camp and drag everyone down. This way we could get them out of the way and no tears.

                    Sounds stupid I know but if it works
                    Problem with this is inevitably someone useful had to waste their precious mandays to babysit these special cases.
                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • #40
                      Adding my two cents.. Bere Island was chosen centrally by Bde HQ. There was no drinking culture as consumption of alcohol was forbidden for those on FTT. The PDF had training staff attached for the two weeks and were always around overseeing and even took lessons on themselves. Bere Island has just been recently renovated and is of a high standard (on par with other training installations). end.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by trellheim View Post
                        I haven't seen a fat camp or drinking camp in many years,
                        You obviously haven't been to Bere island in a while.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Poiuyt View Post
                          You obviously haven't been to Bere island in a while.
                          The recent recruit course run on Bere Island was the first large occupation there in a number of years and it was a dry canteen so I'd like to know what you mean by that comment?

                          As for conditions on Bere Island, the accomodation and dining areas are much improved with new roofs, windows and heating. It could definitely do with a few proper section rooms but with just one platoon, there are plenty places to conduct classes even during foul weather.

                          As for the earlier suggestion that RDF commanders picked the remote location to somehow hide from the PDF, the RDF commanders were told where to run the course and then swung up the arms and got on with it. The simple fact is that there is a desire from higher up to see more use made out of the facilities on Bere Island. 1BAR RDF normally conduct FTT training while integrated with their PDF colleagues in the Glen of Imaal and don't need to hide from anyone.
                          Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Archimedes View Post
                            The recent recruit course run on Bere Island was the first large occupation there in a number of years and it was a dry canteen so I'd like to know what you mean by that comment?

                            As for conditions on Bere Island, the accomodation and dining areas are much improved with new roofs, windows and heating. It could definitely do with a few proper section rooms but with just one platoon, there are plenty places to conduct classes even during foul weather.

                            As for the earlier suggestion that RDF commanders picked the remote location to somehow hide from the PDF, the RDF commanders were told where to run the course and then swung up the arms and got on with it. The simple fact is that there is a desire from higher up to see more use made out of the facilities on Bere Island. 1BAR RDF normally conduct FTT training while integrated with their PDF colleagues in the Glen of Imaal and don't need to hide from anyone.

                            A single recruit Pln is a large occupation?

                            I'd say it's more than likely to do with Accomodiation but if you have training rooms, square, tactical training area and range happy out

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DeV View Post
                              A single recruit Pln is a large occupation?

                              I'd say it's more than likely to do with Accomodiation but if you have training rooms, square, tactical training area and range happy out
                              Unsure if there's a range on Bere Island. But then again, there are TCVs to get the troops to Kilworth, should it be needed
                              "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                              • #45
                                there is indeed.

                                ( and I did not know this ). but now with Google Street view lol https://www.google.ie/maps/@51.63728...7i13312!8i6656
                                "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                                "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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