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    Would it be unfeasible to convert it to a floating accommodation block? After all, some facilities must already be in board.
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    It is, but assuming you are going to connect to shore supply, you still need a staff aboard to ensure the other machinery is maintained, as well as having somewhere to park it. If rumours are true, space within the basin will be an issue in years to come
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    The problem with keeping vessels in service until they are on the verge of sinking is the Minister will then assume that your NS is happy with aging ships and will not renew them, in the fashion of decades of neglect of past Naval ships. As for selling them off, well, they got paid what the market dictated it was worth and the money is being used to fund Dail printers. Keeping old vessels for training means you fill up the limited space in the Base with scarcely usable ships like the old Setanta. As for who gets to use them afterwards, well, that's the way of the world. People are having a moan about one Irish ship that ends up in semi-dodgy hands. Well, so what. Compared to what the countries of Eastern Europe and Russia have dumped into Africa and Asia, one small ship is of no consequence whatsoever. Our friends in Europe will happily sell first-class weapons to anyone who comes calling with a big enough brown envelope, as can be seen in the war in Yemen. Quite frankly, Ireland's conscience is clean on this one.

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    If she was used as a dive site people imagine the solicitors rubbing their hands with glee for The claims

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Would it be unfeasible to convert it to a floating accommodation block? After all, some facilities must already be in board.
    Crews won't live on existing vessels…..never mind ships converted to accom purposes
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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    Crews won't live on existing vessels…..never mind ships converted to accom purposes
    I agree, for all the reasons mentioned, that it would be a bad idea from an accountancy and a manning point of view- fire, sanitation, space in dockyard, maintenance and running power, pumps etc. In the old days Black Prince was at its own pier in Ringaskiddy /Monkstown. We gave it all away and we just have one little island not big enough for it's future needs when the 2% budget comes home.

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    it also begs the question, why doesnt the NS have a base elsewhere? Even the Don had two!

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    Does Rathmullan count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    it also begs the question, why doesnt the NS have a base elsewhere? Even the Don had two!
    There were a number of Naval ports in use in the early 20th century, including Killybegs, Bear island, Dunlaoghaire. We do need another Naval base with alongside berths, shore installations, fuel tanks, and acceptable accommodation. In any event a port of refuge is needed, if you have to reposition assets in a conflict or emergency situation. The Defence forces have never acquired a predictive outlook and plan for the inevitable. The relinquishing of Defence lands all over the country has painted us into a corner with the Curragh as the last Bastion for the Army, while the Navy are squeezed by loss of harbour property and an ongoing encroachment by the CHB.

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