The PC12s (3) will have significant ISTAR fit.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View Postsee post #213
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Originally posted by TangoSierra View PostWill the PC12M ever be deployed on overseas missions in an ISR role?
Will the PC12M be able/allowed fly over water for Maritime ISR tasks?
If the PC12M is flying ISR missions over Ireland, then the vast majority of time it will be in support of ATCP.
Benign environment - check
Operating out of Italy/Malta - Check
Oh wait, it's only got one engine - my bad
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Originally posted by TangoSierra View PostSoooo. When will the PC-12M be deployed to support Operation IRINI??
Benign environment - check
Operating out of Italy/Malta - Check
Oh wait, it's only got one engine - my badFor now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by TangoSierra View PostI assume there is a difference in conducting patrols versus delivery flights
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Originally posted by Graylion View PostYup, had a look at it and also the U-28A. Sorry, this is a camera ball with the electronics required to operate it and the necessary navigation and comms. Nothing 'significant' about it. What I'd like to see is something like the Hensoldt PrecISR™ radar ( https://www.hensoldt.net/news/hensol...ar-to-qinetiq/ ) and some SIGINT kit. I'll agree that is way ahead to what the AC is used to, but it is still pitiful. :(
Apologies but I know even less about these things than the minister
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostSo do you think someone needs to tell the USN that their new fighter can't operate from their carriers due to only having one engine? Or the Norwegians shadowing Russia flights in F-16's?
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Originally posted by TangoSierra View PostSo tell me that the PC-12M will be used for Maritime ISR off shore then. (+50nm)
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I see the DoD turned down a second PC12 when offered it
The Government was offered a special deal to buy two new aircraft for more than €8m but opted to buy only one amid concerns including a shortage of available hangar space.
Revealed: how Government bought €5.23m aircraft during crisis under special EU rules
July 19 2020 02:30 AM
The Government was offered a special deal to buy two new aircraft for more than €8m but opted to buy only one amid concerns including a shortage of available hangar space.
The new Pilatus PC-12 NG was purchased in March under special EU rules that allow normal procurement practices to be put aside in "crisis situations".
Among the reasons put forward for its purchase were maintenance concerns around the government Learjet and the fact that two other Air Corps planes had amassed more flying hours than almost any comparable aircraft in the world. Internal Department of Defence records reveal concerns were raised about how the Taoiseach and other senior ministers would be able to leave the country at short notice given the lack of available State aircraft.
A "security sensitive" briefing note - which has been released under FOI - said emergency travel might be required arising from the Covid-19 pandemic or other "Brexit-related travel".
The note said: "Commercial travel in the current developing situations may be unavailable, unreliable, insecure or too risky to contemplate."
The Department of Defence had been offered two of the PC-12 aircraft by Pilatus for around €4.3m each, before VAT, and were told they were ready for immediate delivery.
A business case was put forward for acquiring both of the planes, either by purchase or through a lease arrangement. The document outlined how EU laws allowed for the "award of certain contracts at speed in an emergency situation" such as the Covid-19 pandemic.
Internal emails show the Secretary General of the Department of Defence was "comfortable" with the idea of acquiring one new aircraft but "not necessarily convinced" of the rationale for two.
A later business case said one aircraft - purchased for €5.23m including VAT - would actually be better because of restricted hangar space available at Casement Aerodrome in Dublin.
It also said purchase of both planes "would impact on pilot availability, particularly in light of pilot training requirements".
A spokeswoman for the Department of Defence said the new Pilatus airplane had been bought to "provide very immediate additional fixed wing capacity, and enhanced contingent capability, to meet the unique situation arising from the Covid-19 pandemic".
Sunday Independent'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Quinn strikes again. Shortage of Hangar space? Really? Is that what has been keeping our Air Corps so small all these years? It is a shame there is no spare space where new Hangars could be built anywhere within the blue railings.
Where are the 3 new ones going to go when they arrive?
The RAF had the same problem when they decided to buy new P8 aircraft and decided to cancel the order.
OH WAIT, THEY BUILT NEW HANGARS!For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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