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Well with the current crisis in the country, I'm sure all qualified AW139 crew, even if they are now desk drivers in the IAC, could get back to flying very quickly, something that I would imagine does not apply in normal circumstances for the EMS.
Drastic times need drastic measures.Last edited by ias; 3 April 2020, 02:19.
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Originally posted by ias View PostStill believe that the purchase of a number of used, low hour, civil AW139s would make more sense. Already have the pilots and technicians to handle them, or at least easily converted to them.
An aircraft like the PC12 also can fly in or out of almost any of irelands many small airstrip,(800m) making it almost as useful as any heli in that regard. Better fuel consumption at 250l/h compared to Aw139 which is closer to 600l/hr. I imagine the cost factor was a major difference also. If we paid over 4m each for the kitted out version, I presume an off the shelf model works out a lot less.
These aircraft will be the workhorse of the fleet in years to come. Fixed wing pilots will clock up solo hours in this type, as they did in the Cessna before, and they will become a familiar sight in the regional airports.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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The purchase will definitely prove its worth during and long after the current crisis. Common sense would have dictated the purchase of a basic version alongside the sensor equipped versions from the beginning. I'm sure it will receive a more appropriate colour scheme and other military mods when time allows.
When you are looking for an aircraft at short notice that is available now and can be delivered immediately for which you have qualified flight crew and technicians and can go straight to work, well that limits your options. Couple that to the fact that securing a helicopter from an Italian manufacturer may be complicated at the present time and second hand purchases that differ from in service aircraft may complicate your supply chain and training, then this purchase makes sense
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How many hours does it normally take for fixed wing pilots to be type rated? I'm sure someone here knows.I imagine there is a big push to get as many current PC-9 and former Cessna172 pilots up to speed on this ASAP so they can hit the ground running when the other 3 arrive.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostHow many hours does it normally take for fixed wing pilots to be type rated? I'm sure someone here knows.I imagine there is a big push to get as many current PC-9 and former Cessna172 pilots up to speed on this ASAP so they can hit the ground running when the other 3 arrive.
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Just adding a link to an Indo story on 280 for perusal
* https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-39096158.html
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostHow many hours does it normally take for fixed wing pilots to be type rated? I'm sure someone here knows.I imagine there is a big push to get as many current PC-9 and former Cessna172 pilots up to speed on this ASAP so they can hit the ground running when the other 3 arrive.
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Originally posted by ias View PostStill believe that the purchase of a number of used, low hour, civil AW139s would make more sense. Already have the pilots and technicians to handle them, or at least easily converted to them.Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostWell you never know, still early days to this. That being said, given the issues sustaining the medical flight, how many more 139's could we absorb and utilse?Originally posted by ias View PostWell with the current crisis in the country, I'm sure all qualified AW139 crew, even if they are now desk drivers in the IAC, could get back to flying very quickly, something that I would imagine does not apply in normal circumstances for the EMS.
Drastic times need drastic measures.
Originally posted by Jetjock View PostThe purchase will definitely prove its worth during and long after the current crisis. Common sense would have dictated the purchase of a basic version alongside the sensor equipped versions from the beginning. I'm sure it will receive a more appropriate colour scheme and other military mods when time allows.
When you are looking for an aircraft at short notice that is available now and can be delivered immediately for which you have qualified flight crew and technicians and can go straight to work, well that limits your options. Couple that to the fact that securing a helicopter from an Italian manufacturer may be complicated at the present time and second hand purchases that differ from in service aircraft may complicate your supply chain and training, then this purchase makes sense
Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostHow many hours does it normally take for fixed wing pilots to be type rated? I'm sure someone here knows.I imagine there is a big push to get as many current PC-9 and former Cessna172 pilots up to speed on this ASAP so they can hit the ground running when the other 3 arrive.Originally posted by Jetjock View PostSomewhere around 8-10 hours plus ground school would be typical in the civilian sphere.
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it's a good idea, it can do all those runabout jobs and keep the real ones for their work, hell, if sanity prevails they might led soldiers jump out of it, and if they are really nice they might let them take parachutes..."We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
Illegitimi non carborundum
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