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    Quote Originally Posted by northie View Post
    Its central zip opening as opposed to what is in the picture. Foldaway shoulder straps that can be packed away during transit. Everything has been stripped down to save costs. but there are two external zipped pockets, two non zipped external pockets (pointless) and there's five internal pockets as well, four zipped and one plastic one for presumably keeping wet or damp items in. It simple. It works.
    Kitmonster used to have a kitbag on sale (big black one) - think it might have been MoD issue to British service personnel
    Might be similar?

    EDIT: They still do....
    http://www.kitmonster.co.uk/product_...roducts_id/426
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Kitmonster used to have a kitbag on sale (big black one) - think it might have been MoD issue to British service personnel
    Might be similar?

    EDIT: They still do....
    http://www.kitmonster.co.uk/product_...roducts_id/426
    That appears to be the very same bag, on the exterior anyway.

    Very good bit of kit.

    There is a DF crest on the side which would be the only difference.
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    Back on topic. The lads out in the Leb were issued the new Haix boots today.
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    Any sign of the UNDOF rotation getting them before being deployed?
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    I'm told that UNDOF got them this week.

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    That would be correct. Haven't worn it enough to comment on it though
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    Troops of the 58 Inf Gp UNDOF wore the new boots on their March past for the Minister today.
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    A couple of Pictures from Yesterday.
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    Is it just me, or have the toes/heels of the boots been polished? Is that just the design of the boot?

    Just the boot design. Rubber toe cap and heel protector.Brand new so shiny.
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    Defo not practical for home service in the depths of winter, IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Defo not practical for home service in the depths of winter, IMHO
    Why do you think that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Defo not practical for home service in the depths of winter, IMHO
    the boot itself will probably be fine, light and has waterproof membrane so should keep feet dry.

    big issue regards practicalness will be how scuffed and worn the fabric becomes and more importantly how the barrack fashion police view this.
    no doubt some BSM, etc. will issue a hair brained order for boots to be polished, not worn outside barracks, not worn on grass, etc, etc. to make sure they stay new out of the box looking for GOCs.

    if the single pair issue is the case it will raise serious issues or higher ups will have to relax about how boots physically look after a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-RayOne View Post
    the boot itself will probably be fine, light and has waterproof membrane so should keep feet dry.

    big issue regards practicalness will be how scuffed and worn the fabric becomes and more importantly how the barrack fashion police view this.
    no doubt some BSM, etc. will issue a hair brained order for boots to be polished, not worn outside barracks, not worn on grass, etc, etc. to make sure they stay new out of the box looking for GOCs.

    if the single pair issue is the case it will raise serious issues or higher ups will have to relax about how boots physically look after a while.
    +1.
    IMHO there is still a requirement for a cheaper day to day Barracks boot. The line value of the new boots is €184.00. So they are not going to issue us a second pair of those.But as has been said one pair of boots to serve you for all tasks is ridiculous.

    Of course there is zero info coming out from official sources as to what the plan is.I guess the days of NEEDING to purchase a second pair of boots is back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northie View Post
    Why do you think that?
    Being Nubuck they'd be very difficult to keep clean I'd say
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    They just look weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    They just look weird
    Yeah.Gonna take some getting used to.

    On a side note I would love to see a side by side photo of the Haix Scouts and Nepals to see the variance in colour. Gonna need a second pair of boots and I am not convinced the Scouts are high leg enough for the likes for Irish terrain in poor weather conditions.
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    I suppose, once upon a time, brown boots were what the Irish DF wore, as did everyone else in the free world. Black is relatively recent. For our generation though, I think it is fair to say that Brown boots appear "un-military" somewhere in the back of the collective military mind?
    After spending so much spare time and effort making sure my boots were shiny black, the switch to brown must be like changing from driving on the left to driving on the right.
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    Have seen the British Armies up close, they look plastic

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    Time for another break I think......

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    Infantry Corps - An Lámh Comhrac


    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    got any views on suitability?

    are you lot really going to one boot - they can't possibly believe that one boot can be suitable for both July in the Golan Heights and lugging a machine gun, tripod and a billionty rounds to 2,500ft in Donegal in February - can they?

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    Mate, that would involve spending cash.
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    Who grinned at life in empty joy,
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    And whistled early with the lark.

    In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
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    He put a bullet through his brain.
    And no one spoke of him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropebag View Post
    got any views on suitability?

    are you lot really going to one boot - they can't possibly believe that one boot can be suitable for both July in the Golan Heights and lugging a machine gun, tripod and a billionty rounds to 2,500ft in Donegal in February - can they?
    To quote from "losing small wars" strike out British and insert Irish or any other military for that matter.....

    "the (British) military is almost the ultimate example of anthropologist Clifford Geertz's definition of culture as ‘the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves’. There is nothing inherently negative about any of this. The problems begin when those stories are believed and acted upon. Separation then becomes exceptionalism. There is a deep-rooted belief in the idea that anything can be done, and that the possibility of failure is not only not an option, but cannot even be acknowledged. This in turn gives rise to deeply unrealistic approaches, which may be characterized by the benign phrase ‘a can-do attitude’. This is otherwise known as ‘cracking on’. No other profession can afford such illusions. In the law or in medicine the delivery of unrealistic advice results results in adverse consequences both for those requesting the advice and for those delivering it."

    Ledwidge, Frank. Losing Small Wars: British Military Failure in Iraq and Afghanistan (p. 10). Yale University Press.
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