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I agree , massive volume going from Dublin , too massive if there is a no deal Brexit . There's P&O and Seatruck to liverpool , Irish Ferries and Stena to Holyhead , around seventeen arrivals from the UK a day .Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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Originally posted by Laners View PostI agree , massive volume going from Dublin , too massive if there is a no deal Brexit . There's P&O and Seatruck to liverpool , Irish Ferries and Stena to Holyhead , around seventeen arrivals from the UK a day .
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Originally posted by na grohmitÃ* View PostRosslare is three years away from havingthe necessary inspection facilities it requires post no deal brexit.
I don't know where Dublin port stands in this regards.
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My thinking is that if Dublin becomes congested to the point that every link span is occupied due to the slower discharge of vehicles,ships arriving from the continent will still have to wait for a berth even though they would not be subject to no deal customs and inspections . Now if Rosslare and Cork were to designated for all continental traffic at least their would be an unhindered route into the country . It seems that the contingency plan is to pour a lot concrete and make a large parking lot at Dublin port . Why not make use of two other perfectly good ports with link spans to spread the load .( Does anyone know if the second link span at Ringaskiddy is operational )Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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Worst case (hard Brexit and major disruption to landbridge), Rosslare could be well placed to concentrate on RoRo to France to reduce congestion in Dublin
Rosslare’s plans
If there is sufficient demand and Dublin is very congested, the ferries will want to put services in placeLast edited by DeV; 12 February 2019, 08:08.
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There are eight vessels operating from Dublin to the UK , Heysham , Liverpool , Holyhead . Three UK ports all feeding into one Irish port , the total lane metres of the combined vessels is equal to 20 klms , multiply that by the combined number of round trips in a 24 hour period it comes in at 100 klms of vehicles end to end. That's the distance from Dublin to Holyhead . Add to that the once a week service by the Celine(8000 lane metres) from Belgium and the new three days a week service to/from France by Irish Ferries . That's five ports all feeding into Dublin . All that freight traffic has only one way into and out of Dublin and that's via the Port Tunnel .Last edited by Laners; 12 February 2019, 09:09.Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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Originally posted by Laners View PostThere are eight vessels operating from Dublin to the UK , Heysham , Liverpool , Holyhead . Three UK ports all feeding into one Irish port , the total lane metres of the combined vessels is equal to 20 klms , multiply that by the combined number of round trips in a 24 hour period it comes in at 100 klms of vehicles end to end. That's the distance from Dublin to Holyhead . Add to that the once a week service by the Celine(8000 lane metres) from Belgium and the new three days a week service to/from France by Irish Ferries . That's five ports all feeding into Dublin . All that freight traffic has only one way into and out of Dublin and that's via the Port Tunnel .
Depends on the amount of axles
Depends on the consignees location
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The lane metres of the ships stays the same regardless of the weight and number of axles , and no trough traffic of heavy goods vehicles allowed trough Dublin except those with a permit for a local delivery .Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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Originally posted by Laners View PostMy thinking is that if Dublin becomes congested to the point that every link span is occupied due to the slower discharge of vehicles,ships arriving from the continent will still have to wait for a berth even though they would not be subject to no deal customs and inspections . Now if Rosslare and Cork were to designated for all continental traffic at least their would be an unhindered route into the country . It seems that the contingency plan is to pour a lot concrete and make a large parking lot at Dublin port . Why not make use of two other perfectly good ports with link spans to spread the load .( Does anyone know if the second link span at Ringaskiddy is operational )
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Originally posted by Laners View PostThe lane metres of the ships stays the same regardless of the weight and number of axles , and no trough traffic of heavy goods vehicles allowed trough Dublin except those with a permit for a local delivery .Last edited by ancientmariner; 12 February 2019, 12:32.
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Originally posted by Laners View PostThe lane metres of the ships stays the same regardless of the weight and number of axles , and no trough traffic of heavy goods vehicles allowed trough Dublin except those with a permit for a local delivery .
5 axle HGVs aren’t allowed through the city between 0700 and 1900 hrs without a permit
Now if you have lighter goods that can be carried to/from the port (especially the Southside) on a 2 axle tractor unit and 2 axle trailer via Strand Road, which can be very advantageous if your on the Southside
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